JDMvW Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>It's certainly an ideal path for those who want to hold their photography at arm's length.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_h.1 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 "It is a generation that won't ever want a better camera than the one in their phone." Why would they? Most people used small compact easy to use cameras all along. Now its even easier and handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah_fox Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <blockquote> <p><em>Whew ... for a minute there I thought Melanie was talking about Canon</em> cameras.</p> </blockquote> <p>She might be. I can't quite read any of the lettering in the blurry/fuzzy main iPhoto (note to iPhoneographer: iFocus and iUnsharpmask!), but it appears to depict some DSLR camera with a large, red-ringed lens. But perhaps Epson and/or Cannon copy the red ring. If Canon were as smart as UPS, they would have trademarked their red ring, just like UPS has trademarked the color brown. (I now no longer use this color in any of my photos, terrified of being sued for trademark infringement.)</p> <p>Wow, to think that I could have bought multiple iPhones for what I paid for CS5, and it wouldn't even take me long hours to edit my photos on an iPhone. D'oh! I feel like such an idiot.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleE Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>This reminds me of an acquaintance I knew from college. He said he needed a new camera for a trip so I asked him why he needed a new camera and he said "Because my iphone takes better pictures than my camera" so I asked him what camera he had and he responded Canon 50d so I offered a suggestion that he might save some money on a new camera by adjusting the settings on his canon and that it should be perfectly capable of taking technically well shot photographs and should not be falling behind his iphone.</p> <p>He then proceeded to berate me and get very defensive of how amazing the iphone is and how he knows everything there is to know about photography because he works in the photography app department at apple. </p> <p>Another story related to this article is I have another friend who is a fairly successful photographer. She owns her own gallery and displays her work. She does quite a bit of fine art work for galleries and I believe she had done weddings and editorial work in the past as well. A couple years ago a car accident left her paralyzed with very limited use of her hands. Since then she has been in physical therapy and it is helping but in order to continue creating art and move on with her career she moved to using her iphone. She pretty much works exclusively with her iphone now and has been creating some very beautiful work with it. </p> <p>Any time you see an article like this or you hear someone speak in absolutes it tells me they worry more about their gear than the end product. Who cares what camera you used in the end the print is what matters. The image you create, the feeling it evokes. That is what it is all about. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starshooter Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>Does this mean I am going to have to replace my Bilora Bella 44? I thought I could keep using it until they stopped making 127 film. Darn.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleswood Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>I agree John, and they get a new camera every two years or so when they upgrade their phone.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>I notice the article has been edited (assuming the quotes posted here previously were correct at the time) to remove the mention of Epson SLRs. Now it just says "Canon and Nikon".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathewDH Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>Say Wayne, you should upgrade to the Bilora 66 which uses 120 film. Step up to a better image with larger film stock. ;-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p><em>"There are many reasons why Apple is now competing with the digital camera giants of the world"</em></p> <p>Sure all we need is more Unemployment....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I rather doubt that the lowered production of Japanese cameras (built almost entirely in East and Southeast Asia) is going to raise the unemployment levels in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>Seriously. Fewer people in China making pocket cameras, more people in China making phones, sounds like a wash. At least some of the Apple money is going toward <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57581319-37/apple-releases-revised-plans-for-its-spaceship-headquarters/">California space station contractors</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 <p>I don't have stats to back it up, but I suspect most cellphone owners use its built-in camera because it came as an incidental feature so it became their only camera which they wouldn't otherwise own. </p> <p>Another perception - young people getting hooked on photography via their first cellphone will inevitably graduate to something more substantial. Not necessarily as a replacement to their phone camera, rather following a natural progression of any hobby when it gets more serious.</p> <p>Phone cameras is still a fairly recent phenomena and have no doubt changed things in a big way, but given its form-factor constraint and power requirement, its feature growth will necessarily plateau at some point with no room for further growth. It's only then can we assess how it will impact traditional photography meaningfully. Meanwhile traditional cameras are getting ever better and cheaper without the same constraints. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <p>"<strong><em>Another perception - young people getting hooked on photography via their first cellphone will inevitably graduate to something more substantial."</em></strong></p> <p>Keep whishing....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_G1664882113 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <p>Bob, did you nail it ... if it's on the Internet, it must be true? My wife, a librarian, has been hammering this in to me for years. One only needs to look at wikis, especially the Wikipedia to know that this bunk is not true. I agree with your sarcasm. I am an avid Apple fan and have an iPhone 5 with that terrific little camera that comes in handy when I regret not having a camera with me. I have even posted some decent iPhone images on PN. But make no mistake, after we recognize that the person behind the camera is far more important than the camera used, DSLRS and iPhones cannot be discussed together as comparing apples to Apples, all puns intended. Larry</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <blockquote> <p><em>"the person behind the camera is far more important than the camera used"</em></p> </blockquote> <p>That's true for traditional photography, but let's not ignore technical, scientific, forensic and other specialized photography where gear is everything and the person using it is mostly fungible. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_h.1 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 "an iPhone 5 with that terrific little camera that comes in handy when I regret not having a camera with me." You cannot regret being without a camera with you when you have a "terrific" camera with you. "I have even posted some decent iPhone images on PN. But make no mistake, after we recognize that the person behind the camera is far more important than the camera used, DSLRS and iPhones cannot be discussed together as comparing apples to Apples" Suitable images have been produced with "terrific" iPhone camera gear. Adding to that is the claim that the photographer is far more important to producing images than gear used. Then describing what the gear has in common somehow leads to the conclusion that the gear has absolutely nothing in common. Even more bizarre after we are told that a "terrific" camera is not a camera. " if it's on the Internet, it must be true? My wife, a librarian, has been hammering this in to me for years." Like cameras not being cameras and different cameras not being able to be used for some similar purposes. Of course phone cameras are much different than DSLRs but they are not completely devoid of comparison. It would have been better to say that each are often better suited for different uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <p>I give her a <strong>C-</strong> on her little "essay" project...</p> <p>As it's been stated, in capable hands the iPhone 5 is pretty amazing. (Especially the image of the Leica M3)<br /> <a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-5/sample-images.htm">iPhone 5 Sample Images</a> <em><<< Click</em><br /> <em>"the colors and everything are essentially what came out of the</em> (iPhone's)<em> camera"</em></p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_gardiner Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <blockquote> <p>I notice the article has been edited (assuming the quotes posted here previously were correct at the time) to remove the mention of Epson SLRs. Now it just says "Canon and Nikon".</p> </blockquote> <p>Yes they've edited it, but the unabridged 'Epson' original is still over at USA news online in all it's glory:<br /> http://newsusa.biz/move-over-dslrs-iphoneography-is-taking-over-professional-photography/</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <p>Why doesn't iPhone stick to phones ? Next thing you know they will want to get into auto insurance, banks, refrigerators, education, dog walking and who knows what else they want to take over so they can make a buck...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 <p>She's very opinionated and wrong in a lot of her ideas just like many of us posters on PN. <em>But she's cuter!</em></p> Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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