jason_hall5 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 <p>Hello every one,</p> <p>A week or so ago I started a <a href="../black-and-white-photo-film-processing-forum/00Twdl">thread</a> about best developer for Tri-X 320. I was limited to a hand full that I already had.</p> <p>Anyway, I decided to go with HC-110 with Dilusion B. I used it at 18C for 5.25 minutes. Agitation was normal per Kodak's instructions.</p> <p>I just thought that I would share the results from some of the better shots. </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/15184234@N02/sets/72157621868447770/">Tri-X 320 set on Flickr.</a></p> <p>Thanks to all that gave advise on the first thread, I did type up a long reply but then the server screwed up and lost it all. I did not get the nerve to type it all again.</p> <p>Thanks</p> <p>Jason</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn_washington Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 <p>Jason,</p> <p>Nice shots! Good contrast in the building pics, and I really liked the close-uo of the door. Where was this?</p> <p>Later,</p> <p>Lynn</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 <p>Looks very good, Jason. Well done!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 <p>Jason, they look great. Nice post-processing on them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 <p>Lynn,</p> <p>Columbia, South Carolina</p> <p>Thanks Lex, means alot coming from you.</p> <p>Thanks Micheal, I did take some liberties with lightroom, but did mostly stick to contrast control and of course dodgeing and buring. That "clarity" slider did come into play as well. :o)<br />I was very pleased with how well I was able to pull out good detail in the clouds with little to no effort. I did use a cokin gradient filter on a few.<br> I added a little vignett to one but it did not look nearly so dark while still in lightroom. I need to dial it back a bit.<br> Jason</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth_cooke Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Really nice series Jason. Do I take it that Tri-X 320 is Tri-X 400 rated at 320 asa? I was reading a book yesterday called Elements by Barry Thornton and he was showing some images in his book taken on Kodak Tri-X 400 rated at 160 asa. The definition was astonishing. They were shot on a Rollei SL66</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecahn Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>It is a different film and a very good one. My favorite shot at 125 and done in pyro or D76.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Those look great. And lightroom is just another tool like an enlarger..... so use it well and don't worry.<br> I think HC-110 is one of the best developers ever created.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>As Bruce pointed out, Tri-X 320(TXP) and Tri-400(TX) are rather different films. Both great in their own way. I have shot a good bit of TX in 35mm, but this was my first use of TXP at all and it is great in 120. 6x7 is now my preferred format...well until I get in 4x5!</p> <p>Jason</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenMarriott Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Jason, the smaller versions look great but seem to fall apart when examined in the largest version. For example, the rider on the horse statue; what's with the ghosting around his chest area? Were the negs too dense? I've had similar trouble with some of my scans (colour negs and some dark slides) & I'm not sure what the cure is. Makes me hesitate to consider purchasing the Epson 700 though I've heard others rave about it, even the Epson V500. One other thing, the shadows seem a bit dark and I'm wondering if overexposing and subsequent developing adjustments may be the answer. In any case your examples, in the smaller sizes at least, are very sharp and contrasty; very impressive. Best, LM.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Len, I think what you are seeing (Ghoasting)is the result of the Clarity slider being used. Also the shadows are dark because I increased the black levels in post processing as well. All in done in lightroom. What I find that happens from time to time is that I make adjustments like this and while in lightroom they are more subtle. After export it is a different story. I think the issue is that lightroom is color managed enviroment, while picture viewer and internet explorer are not. My prints from the lab are as they should and match lightroom when viewed on a calibrated monitor.</p> <p>Seems that with out the color managment, the contrast is picked up a bit and throws off what I intended it to look like. Seems to be true of saturation as well.</p> <p>I will export a different version of the images later tonight and repost them, I would like to hear your opinion there as well.</p> <p>Jason</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Hello agian Len,</p> <p>I took a closer look at the images as they are on Flicker. The ghoasting you see at the chest is infact where I burned down the sky a bit and did not blend it well enough...good eye on that. The darkest part of the image does fall into black, blocks up a bit if you will. Agian that is from me turning up the black point. Also the maybe not the very best setting during scanning.</p> <p>I truely believe that the exposure is pretty well on, as is the development. Not to say that there are not ways to get more from the scene, as I am sure there are. It was mid day on a mostly clear sky, so the contrast in the scene was pretty high.</p> <p>Still yet, as a learning exercise, I will repost different versions tonight.</p> <p>Thanks agian</p> <p>Jason</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LenMarriott Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Jason, OK, the V500\V700 is back on my short list. :-) Thanks for the update. Best, LM.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>I use the V700 and I had a smaller learning curve as that I started with an Epson 3170 the the 4490. I find that even 35mm can be pretty good with the V700 if you just take the time to learn how to use pre scanning controls and then you just have to use a little PS not much.</p> <p> Tri-X HC-110 Dilution H 35mm Small<br> <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3519/3764221007_38c28bbde6.jpg" alt="" width="326" height="500" /></p> <p>Larger but still not the full size the scanner can do.<br> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3519/3764221007_c8122c24bf_o.jpg</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_dake Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <blockquote> <p>Elements- by Barry Thornton</p> </blockquote> <p>I wish I could find that book, I have been looking for a while and I have never seen it below $250.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_blachly Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Great photos. Can you post a 100% crop from one of them?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 <p>Sure James, Just tell me which photo and what area of it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_blachly Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 <p>From the third photo (but from 1st or 2nd photo if you must), can you get a crop to include a bit of the pediment, dental, balustrade, and a touch of sky? The corner of the building in the 3rd photo may work.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 <p>OK James, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/15184234@N02/sets/72157621764415655/">check this out....</a></p> <p>All adjustments reset in lightroom, so these are straight scans at 3200 DPI.</p> <p>Jason</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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