marcphotography Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 It seems like in my area anyways, that there are a lot more female photographers than male photographers. Is there any statistics that someone can give me about national percentages of male vs female photographers? If there are more female photographers, why is this so? Is it because women seem to be more creative? It seems like every wedding I go to I see the guy in the relationship messing with the camera and showing the women how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 If you're trying to prove a point, you tend to count only the things that agree with your premise. That works for politics and clinical research* too. * clinical research analyzes the results from medical records (and often hearsay). Medical records come from clinics, which is the only connection. This is why, for example, coffee is good for you one week and deadly the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcphotography Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 ummm. I am not trying to prove a point. I am just asking a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 <i>That works for politics and clinical research* too.</i> <p> Edward, not all science is rotten. Just like with all fields, there are people who are more insightful and honest than others. Most people in research (yes, including clinical research) do try to find out how things really work; history tends to be very ruthless to scientists who didn't get it right. I appreciate your contributions as an expert in photography - but please leave out the smug comments on fields you obviously know very little about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_degroot Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 in my experience with electronics I saw only 3 female electrical engineers. it was puzzling, especially when electrical engineers do not usually have to be 6 foot tall and 200 pounds. it seemed to me that electrical enginnering and electonics design was well souted to women. possibly, it was considered not of interest to women. Most electical engineers were not ham radio operatore, techno geeks, which tends to be a guy thing. I saw more computer types even hardware technicians who were women. so maybe things were changing after 40 years. i think it is a matter of perception by either men or women what is a suitable profession. Not in their suitability to do a good job' apparently more interest-related that ability-related. as time passes things will change. I believe it began during ww2 when women made ships, tanks, trucks and airplanes. and ferried aircrft as far as the law would then allow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chartrand Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Andrew, For some strange reason I feel compelled to respond to your question. Just like many jobs that were predominately male dominated, females are finding an interest in and working as photographers. I think you notice more females in the field of photography because there are more. This, is in itself, is not particularly good or bad. It just is. You take notice of female police officers, fire fighters and photographers just as you take notice of male nurses. Lets face it. Photography is a trade. It can be learned with little or no formal education. It is not licensed, regulated or very well policed (if at all) by its own organizations, of which membership is voluntary. Just like teacher unions, the photography organizations are not there – like the AMA or the bar associations to help regulate their members. Like any other profession (job) there are those who stand out from the crowd. The artists of their trade. Anyone can paint, draw, sing, dance, or photograph. Only a few can do it well. Male or female, the best will be recognized as such and be rewarded with fame and fortune. Male, female or other – that is why you are part of this web site – to improve yourself and stand above the rest. The few, the proud, the photographers! Well, at least the few outstanding ones. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 >>> Edward, not all science is rotten. Just like with all fields, there are people who are more insightful and honest than others. ... I agree with Illka; and disagree with Edward. An observation was made. And then curiosity led to the OP wondering... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemillis Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I wonder....is it that women actually get on and do it, while all the blokes are sitting in front of keyboards talking abotu doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcphotography Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 ha, could be..... It just seems like with photography well into the digital age, you would see more males than females. I am not trying to be stereotypical. But seriously, us guys love electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance_bradford Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I have a feeling that there are probably more male photographers out there. Most women go through a photography "phase" during which they take lots of pictures of themselves and their feet and then drop it. Its kind of like cooking, which is considered effeminate, but there are most professional chefs are male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmitchell Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Lance, what wonderful insight into the female mind. How did you know we all take pictures of our feet? My next phase...dropping photography - LOL<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcphotography Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 oh my. That almost made me faint. take it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance_bradford Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Lance, what wonderful insight into the female mind. How did you know we all take pictures of our feet? My next phase...dropping photography - LOL Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtlawyer Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 In my younger days, there were few female photographers. They just didn't have the necessary mentality to understand f stops and shutter speed. Since then they appear to have evolved to a much higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonmestrom Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 "In my younger days, there were few female photographers. They just didn't have the necessary mentality to understand f stops and shutter speed" Just playing to be ignorant to provoke some female photographers here or are you just born obtuse? I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogears Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 <i>"In my younger days, there were few female photographers. They just didn't have the necessary mentality to understand f stops and shutter speed" </i> <p> Um, I think that was, like, humor? <p> Can I sponsor a contest for foot photography by women?<p> <i>clinical research analyzes the results from medical records (and often hearsay). Medical records come from clinics, which is the only connection. This is why, for example, coffee is good for you one week and deadly the next.</i><p> Don't take that antibiotic for your infection--it could be deadly this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 <i>Edward, not all science is rotten.</i> <p> True not all, but some science is rotten, and a considerable amount of it at that. Perhaps their intentions are good, but paperbound researchers tend to confuse correlation with causality, hence the ridiculous conclusions you see quoted by the news media every day. As a scientist, if you don't know the mechanism you know very little indeed. <p> My original statement was merely to illustrate that if you expect to see something, you generally will. If there are political implications, all the better. <p> As of noon today, is coffee beneficial or toxic? If you don't like the conclusion, check back in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_newton Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 It really depends on who's coffee it is now doesn't it? I've had coffee that was delightful and I could imagine it being a panacea for any number of aliments and I have had coffee that could strip paint from a wall or degrease a bearing. I generally notice about an equal split when it comes to people using dSLRs. I generally notice most people using an SLR mostly out of curiousity for what they are using. Rare is it that I see another non-digital SLR user, but I do see them occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Geez Christine, that's like dropping roadkill on the carpet when we're sitting around discussing lenses or something. I could have done without that imagery.. Anyways, where were we...back to the question, male/female ratios... Andrew, I have no idea of national statistics, but in our photo club (Ontario, Canada) it's about 60/40 female/male. There are only a couple of semi-professional female photographers, but a couple of professional male photographers as members, and we get a few male professional photographer speakers in throughout the year, which makes it SEEM like more male pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 It might be useful to draw a professional and amateur distinction. I can contribute to neither, but an article in the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/business/yourmoney/15cameras.html" > NY Times (2007)</a> might shed some light on a contributor to women becoming more interested on photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 'Perhaps their intentions are good, but paperbound researchers tend to confuse correlation with causality, hence the ridiculous conclusions you see quoted by the news media every day.' Actually, my conclusion is that 89.76% of this problem is due to crude distortions of the research by ill-informed or sensationalist journalists. And I have the figures to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Mebbe it's my background in nursing and emergency health care. Or mebbe it's just my warped sense of humor. But I nearly choked laughing at Christine's photo. Sometimes the best cure for a dopey thread is a nice slap with a big wet trout. But do tell, how'd you come by that slash, Christine? I'm hoping it's something exotic, like some perverse form of body modification. If you tell me you just stepped on a pop top and blew out your flip flop I'm gonna be disappointed. BTW, Andrew? 33% of photographers are women. You won't be able to confirm that statistic because 75% of 'em know how to skew statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 In my office building of about 330 people, there are about 4 whom I see with an SLR, all are men. Out on the road, sidewalk, and on the bay, I estimate 65% of SLR users are men. In watching NFL games, the sideline pro photogs are what? 90% male? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the celt 2 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 And this is important why? Personaly, I would much rather sit around and discuss all things photo with a lady anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Yeh, but if you count all cameras - P&S, cell phones, etc. - not just SLRs, in my casual observation I see a lot more women than men taking photos. Sure, they're mostly taking snapshots of their families and friends. But they're still photographers, tho' perhaps not according to photo.net's lofty standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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