yann_r.

Thank you all for your responses.<br>

I've found one in excellent condition but sold at $820... much too expensive!

I'm an amateur photographer who's planning to go to DSLR. I'm still comparing

bodies and Lens. (I haven't choose between Nikon or Canon yet, but the D200 has

got my preference).<p>

I'd like to know if the *old* <b>AF ED 80-200 f/2.8 D</b> push-pull Nikkor lens

is still worth it. Used ones are quite cheap (so to say).<br>

Thanks for sharing your experiences, photos and/or links appreciated.

Hi Chris,<p align="justify">

No, I'm not shooting with Pentax. I'm not shooting with DSLR in fact but because I'm still looking for the body I could buy, this K10D has caught my mind: on paper, its features looks very interesting (a very good body and pentaprism indeed) and Pentax should show two great lenses at the Photokina to go with it: a 16-50 f/2.8 and a 50-135 f/2.8.<br>

Of course, reviews must be edited but I guess this gear will have a nice success against Canon's 400D and Nikon's D80.</p>

Ray,<br>

With all my respect, isn't it a difference between "to find the time for an explanation" and "to find the will to say the truth"?<p>

<i>I know that I'm going to be deleted once again, I just wanted you to read this.</i>

<i>Why does Pentax only offer two-inch long jpeg thumbnails as examples?</i><br>

Have a look <A HREF="http://www.pentaxtech.com/Press/pressfiles.html">there</A>, you'll find large size examples.

Ben's idea sounds very good even if it's looks a bit difficult to make it understable. What I fear is that mate raters become half the time hate raters and vice-versa to balance their average: perverts are everywhere (BTW, only giving 3s or 7s has really no sense).<p>

Philip, have you an idea of the percentage of members who complain about the rating system? 0.1 (yes, I mean per thousand) of the whole community? 0.2? 1? So do you think that's really a BIG problem?<p>

Actually, one of the main problem in the rating system is that only 3 to 7 are counted. My 2 euro cents.

<i>Can a simple change clean up the rating system?</i><br>

Yep, just bring the 1s and 2s back and only show average of ratings received (no more ratings breakdown page).<br>

Do not see the connection between ratings and real name.

<i>How well does it shoot?</i> Don't know more than you, maybe as well as you're writing pertinent comments.<br>

<i>How are its images in bright and low light?</i> 3872x2592 pixels large.<br>

<i>Why does Pentax only offer two-inch long jpeg thumbnails as examples?</i> I'll ask them ASAP.

Just <A HREF="http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/">previewed</A>.<br>

It looks good! (dust and weather resistant indeed).

Thank you all : )<p align="justify">

First at all, my "favorite" brand had been Canon -<i> so to speak, this choice was only based on the way I was looking enviously at f/4 L series</i> LOL - but the new Nikon D80, Sony A100 and the last Pentax K10D -<i> it looks good!</i> - are making the choice even more difficult.<p align="justify">

Mars (I guess that's your firstname), even if I'd prefer to use a sensor able to produce cleaner images (like Canon's), I think that can be nice to use a clear viewfinder. Lately, I used a borrowed KM 5D, this camera seems to have a quite clear pentaprism type viewfinder and well, I find it a bit small. I nevertheless admit that I'm not used to DSLR bodies!<br>

The fact is that entry level DSLR offers either good electronic features or good optical features, rarely both, and for a beginner like me who wants to build a system (I come from the full-auto-compact world), the choice is impossible.<br>

Is the size of the body a parameter to be counted in? I thought so but more I compare cameras and more I feel wrong on this point.<p align="justify">

Ben, well spotted: I'm going to start with a quite limited budget -<i> my budget is in danger to be half limited because of my prehistoric computer which is showing some signs of wear and tear... damn!</i> : )) - so with a quite basic equipment. Then I'm front of a dilemna: either I choose a good body with entry level lenses or - maybe the wisest answer - I choose a nice lens with an entry level body.<br>

What I'd really like to own is at least a better focal range that the one I was using on my P8 (39-117 mm eq. 35mm) LOL<br>

To conclude... My choice isn't done yet!<p align="justify">

Leah, I did not know this K10D (although I'm a big reviews reader...) before you told me about, thanks a lot for that! This body looks amazing (especially with this 16-45mm f/4 lens attached on) and I'll keep a look on it, including it in my <i>which-one-to-buy</i> list.<br>

It has just been previewed on dpreview.<p align="justify">

Don, right, I think so that a pentaprism is better but as I wrote it above, that's difficult to find the best optical features on the best electronic abilities...<p align="justify">

The <i>Find-a-Body-Quest</i> book isn't closed! : ))</p>

<i>Only time will tell which one is better, as there is no production review of the 400d yet.</i><br>

Yes, of course... that's obvious. Because the same difference (regarding viewfinder and size) exists between the 350D(Rebel Xt) and the D70s, is anyhow a technical reason possible?

Hi there,

<p align="justify">

Please consider me as a great newbie who's planning to buy a DSLR equipment and

who isn't prejudiced neither against Canon nor Nikon.

<p align="justify">

Is there any *technical* reasons explaining the difference (quite a big one) of

body sizes between the Canon EOS-400D/Rebel Xti et the Nikon D80?<br>

Well, my question should be: Does this difference comes (in part) from the

viewfinders? If it is, is the D80 better than the 400D/Rebel Xti's one?<p>

I can read on some reviews:

<p align="justify">

<u>D80 viewfinder</u><br>

<ul>

<li>Fixed eye-level pentaprism</li>

<li>Built-in diopter adjustment (-2.0 to +1.0 m-1)</li>

<li>Eyepoint: 19.5 mm (at -1.0 m-1)</li>

<li>Frame coverage 95% (approx.)</li>

<li>Viewfinder magnification approx. 0.94x with 50mm lens at infinity; -1.0 m-1</li>

<li> Focusing screen: Type B BriteView clear matte screen Mark II with

superimposed focus brackets and On-Demand grid lines</li>

</ul>

</p>

<p align="justify">

<u>400D/Rebel Xti viewfinder</u><br>

<ul>

<li>Pentamirror</li>

<li>95% frame coverage</li>

<li>Magnification: 0.8x (-1 diopter with 50 mm lens at infinity)</li>

<li>Eyepoint: 21 mm</li>

<li>Dioptric adjustment: -3.0 to +1.0 diopter</li>

<li>Fixed laser matte screen</li>

<li>Proximity sensor disables LCD shooting mode information</li>

</ul>

</p>

<p align="justify">Thanks in advance for your time.</p>

<p align="justify">Il est parfois possible de trouver des textes hors cadres

dans le forum critiques de photos, ceci est probablement

provoqué par des balises HTML non fermées.<br>

Quelques lignes de codes pourraient imposer l'alignement des textes et ainsi

améliorer l'affichage et la lecture de cette page.<p align="justify">

Veuillez trouver un exemple ci-joint. Les photographies, leur titre et le nom du

photographe ont été brouillés afin de ne pas abuser des droits de

copyright.</p><div></div>

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