inoneeye Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) As a contributor with a zero degree in business savvy i have no sense of how you might achieve your larger goal. As i read your post and the page you referenced i found myself trying to visualize your venn diagram. Visuals are my go to for problem solving. Having no desire for starting or growing a business leaves me wondering what my role or contribution in a new PN could be. I'll just have to wait and see. I participate only to feed my creative needs and occasionally have an interesting insightful conversation. For me... As it stands PN does feel like an elder photographers social media site. On the surface it differs from others of course but the current version moved it closer. There is youth missing in the current PN forum activites. But a new (targeted?) interface may help bring in some regreshing energies. The equation you pose is daunting and i admire your desire to maintain and fold in PN moving forward. Edited March 22, 2022 by inoneeye i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42dave Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) I see my quote from earlier in this thread about Photo.net being historic has been swiped and put on that page... Edited March 22, 2022 by m42dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Surly:) 1 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Cafferty Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 "For me... As it stands PN does feel like an elder photographers social media site." inoneeye, you're not wrong there. The site surly needs some young blood, but lets not forget the old folk. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I'm thinking maybe it's time to go to specific problems/fixes instead of complaints about the 'tone' of exchanges - which, in the nature of the internet, are hardly confined to any particular site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I'm thinking maybe it's time to go to specific problems/fixes instead of complaints about the 'tone' of exchanges - which, in the nature of the internet, are hardly confined to any particular site. FYI. a list of specific issues / needs has been presented. Others are certainly welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Javkin Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I wonder how many paid memberships were lost the way mine was. I was paying, to support PN, even though none of the benefits were important to me. Then some members reported that their paid memberships were being renewed for another year without their request or authorization. I took out the relatively few photos in my gallery and switched to a non-paying subscription. After a time, I started to participate in "No Words" and know I should pay for it. If the procedures are straightened out, I'd be happy to go back. Like some who wrote above, I felt the upgrade of some years back was a disaster, with loss of function and not a few members. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argh Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I see my quote from earlier in this thread about Photo.net being historic has been swiped and put on that page... Whoops, my fault. Matt sent me the quote via Slack and I didn't realize he was quoting you, I thought it was his quote! Will fix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 "For me... As it stands PN does feel like an elder photographers social media site." inoneeye, you're not wrong there. The site surly needs some young blood, but lets not forget the old folk. But which are the Surly ones? Surely some of each demographic? :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 FYI. a list of specific issues / needs has been presented. Others are certainly welcome. A simple visual presentation consideration from one perspective; I would prefer to be able to turn off the likes - especially the banner. If the likes continue to the next phase it would be less intrusive visually to not have a colored banner as part of a photo presentation. That also applies to the blocking option. And then possibly a less bright white background if not an option to select a background that allows more detail to surface on the high and low values. 2 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
za33photo Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Message to M Jensen. Hello Matt, Another thought. If it is decided to move Photo.Net to a new Platform , I hope that those of us who are using older computers and operating systems will still be able to access the site. Cheers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) :cool::p no not the alerts, i am good with that. It does not intrude on your view of the photos as does the blue banner below the photo or in the case of a blocked member there is the blacked banner announcing a blocked message... If likes are desired a simple solution would be to just add the # in the lower right corner with the Like & Reply options, or anywhere along the bottom... we don't need our name repeated do we. Edited March 23, 2022 by inoneeye 1 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 + better emojis. or maybe none so i get more finger exercise. i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) ............ And then possibly a less bright white background if not an option to select a background that allows more detail to surface on the high and low values. I would like to see a light gray background, similar to the quotation background above, rather than the bright white one currently used. This, I think, is especially noticeable for displaying vertical black and white photographs, or horizontal black and white photos that do not fill the complete display frame, and where the highlight values often look dull in comparison with the white background. Color photos look fine to me as is. Edited March 23, 2022 by Glenn McCreery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 On the other hand, I think that a white background looks best for text, so my above comment about a light gray background would apply only to the photograph background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Sam, I really didn't need a lecture about language. Your point is obvious. I still understood what Arthur originally meant, as apparently did you. I did not feel it necessary to point out to him that he was using the "wrong" words to describe others behavior. Luckily or unluckily we have you to do that for us. 1 Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 To the extent I can read minds, I was pretty sure I knew what Arthur meant, too. That's not the point. I didn't think he was attacking people with mental illness. I thought he was using those words in a denigrating way to underscore how he felt about nasty people on the Internet. This is really pretty simple. It's what we used to do on the junior high school playground. We're not there any more. As a simple matter of respect, let's reserve nasty for nastiness and not associate it, innocently or otherwise, with mental illness. We've adapted our language plenty over the years. We all got used to Russia instead of The Soviet Union, we all got used to mouse being something other than a rodent, we all got used to gay. Think of the hardship most people with mental illness already deal with. Then consider how much it takes from you to use the words appropriately. It shouldn't be too much of a burden. Arthur has apologized. It's a shame that this is being dragged on now by others. In the entertainment business, when you wish someone good luck when they're about to perform, you tell them to "go break a leg". Should patients with fractures take this as an insult? Words and phrases have different meanings and it seems that the word police have it in their heads that the entire English language should be revised to fit their sense of what's right and wrong and denigrate the people who still believe in using old phrases. I think that's out of bounds. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) The site is out of touch with younger folk. Very staid with little fun and humor, So serious, with serious navel gazing folk. And touchy folk...very touchy folk. They are about to burst into tears at any second;) And of course there's the old guard doing their love-ins ,upset, if you are not part of their. ....boring love ins. They will call you names, won't they, Sam. Disrespect you. Nobody likes boring. And there lies the problems. Edited March 23, 2022 by Allen Herbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just a few thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 A lot of people here have no sense of humor. They ought to relax and take it easy more often. :cool: 1 Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 A smile, looks really good, on your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I wonder how many paid memberships were lost the way mine was. I was paying, to support PN, even though none of the benefits were important to me. Then some members reported that their paid memberships were being renewed for another year without their request or authorization. I took out the relatively few photos in my gallery and switched to a non-paying subscription. After a time, I started to participate in "No Words" and know I should pay for it. If the procedures are straightened out, I'd be happy to go back. Like some who wrote above, I felt the upgrade of some years back was a disaster, with loss of function and not a few members. I had a different problem. The site would just stop working, I couldn't log in, everything was still there but I couldn't interact. That happened twice. First time I had to open a new account and pay again. The second time, it was fixed after I figured out how to contact admin, which I don't remember how I did it. Which is another problem, you have to be able to contact the site even when you don't have an account or it stops working. And yes, there are a bunch of crochet grumps, what of it :) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Obert Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Along about the time that everybody was having issues with being charged for renewed membership and NO way to contact anybody about it, my card expired shortly before my renewal date. No way was I going to give PN that new number under those circumstances. I waited and waited for things to get fixed. I really hope that there is a light at the end of this tunnel. Besides the E Mail issue, the only other feature I'd like to see fixed is the "update photo". Never has worked for me. I look forward to a new and better working PN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Hi Doug, the update photo function actually does work but it takes over a week for the servers to "digest" the update. I have been using the update photo function for the last couple of months and that is what I have seen. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Obert Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Hi Doug, the update photo function actually does work but it takes over a week for the servers to "digest" the update. I have been using the update photo function for the last couple of months and that is what I have seen. Regards. WJT Thanks for the info! A week for the servers?? Sounds more like "someone" is manually doing it on a weekly basis to me, but I'll take that over the alternative I was doing! Looks like some of the E mail issues are being addressed as well, I got notice of your reply. This is all great news to me, somebody is moving us towards that far light... Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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