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<p>"<strong>What I still find bizarre here is this incredible defence of Canon</strong> "</p>

<p>It's <em>nothing of the sort</em> , Al.</p>

<p>It's two things:</p>

<p>it's about maintaining an objective view of the issue - we simply don't know the "back story" here, and are not jumping to unfounded conclusions; and</p>

<p>it's about not whining and using this thread as an excuse to take every opportunity to have <em>yet another</em> pop simply because of some ill-concealed disgruntlement with Canon...</p>

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<p>There you go you're doing it again. I'm not even sure you know what you're doing. You're praising them at your own expense. Simple question, do you want them to make you better cameras or not? If you do you need to ask for more not settlel for less. Trust me if you worked for these people they would always ask for more. Why shouldn't we. Wake up. </p>
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<p>Well, there really doesn't have to be any "back story" to it. The cameras were brought to Antarctica in order to take pictures. The cost of the trip is typically very high; no one intentionally abuses their cameras. As far as I could understand, they used rain covers etc.</p>

<p>Some cameras apparently can function in the conditions (salt spray, rain, humid air, freezing temperatures etc.) reliably while others do not. If you plan to shoot in similar conditions, it makes sense take these reports seriously. In my opinion Michael has always been very positive about Canons and there isn't any reason for him to misrepresent the facts.</p>

<p>I shoot in sub-freezing conditions near water often and this is very much a consideration for me. I have not had equipment failures due to this even though I haven't always taken precautions to avoid condensation. I use Nikons.</p>

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<p>I seem to recall another incident like this one...something about<br>

"THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!"<br>

This thread reaffirms my belief that 'Reality TV" is the way of the future!</p>

 

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<p>There seem to be two contentions from Canon that don't sit together too well.<br>

1. In addition the camera body incorporates extensive dust and weatherproofing features including seals and gaskets where body panels and/or camera controls meet.<br>

2. As its not a pro body the weather sealing on the 5DII is only around the main portals (see pic) and definitely not around the shutter release. There will be no change to this until the next model perhaps. A fix is not available.<br>

Now I would have thought that if a camera is weathersealed, then the shutter release is a pretty important place to seal. Wet from fingers, if not direct rain, will fairly easily penetrate there, if it is not sealed. Furthermore, how can the 5DII withstand 10mm/3 mins of rain, as Canon claims it can, if the shutter release is not sealed?<br>

Puzzled.</p>

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<p>Simple google search yielded me nikon seals on D700. Looks like Nikon has atleast two seals on shutter release and Canon has None.</p>

<p>http://www.nikond700.com/nikon-d700-review/photos-of-the-d700/</p>

<p>5D mark II shutter release is likely a new design since it activates HD video mode right? Do you have to keep it depressed for video?</p>

<p>I love my canon systems Both Eos & FD, and I've been called a "canon fanboy" numerous times. BUT I will not buy a 5DII since Canon markets it, sells it as weatherproof and then say it isn't when repair time comes along. And again I never subject my cameras and lenses to moisture but weathersealing is a selling point.</p>

<p>Maybe "weatherproof" to Nikon means something different to Nikon? You know since they show two gaskets at shutter release and canon showns zero gaskets at shutter release.</p>

<p>I'll restate nobody's cameras and lenses that i know of are ever subjected to the officially recognized "Ingress Protection Ratings" for electronic products, yet camera makers claim weather proof & water resistence without the proper certification proving "weatherproof" their marketing statements. I read Olympus dunked tested 3 E3 while powered on and two of three survived full immersion in water. So dslr weathersealing is possible using todays technolgy 66% of the time using one limited test from 2008.</p>

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<p>Continuing the support for canon outdoors doing well, I've had my 30D out in some decenly bad weather. Last month I had my 30D up next a waterfall and had the spray litterally freeze a few of bottoms stuck and coat part of it's body also in ice. Besides not being use my direct print button (o dear!) and the menu button, it worked fine.</p>

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