mal_thomas Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 <p>Good evening,<br> Have scoured the internet for a copy of the manual for this old bulk loader. No luck.<br> If any body has one they can scan and share or know of a link to an online copy - i'd appreciate it.</p> <p>Thanks.</p> <p>Cheers<br> Mal<br> Oz.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 <p>It looks the same as a Lloyd's loader. <br> https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/images/products/media/39335_1_lLoyds_Filmlader_Anleitung.pdf</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal_thomas Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 It does indeed, thanks. But the LPL version has an exposure counter on the rear. I wanted to find out how to use this; set to "S" or "0" before winding the film into the canister ? But i think I worked it out, am assuming "S" stands for Start (which is 5 frames before the "0" which allows for 5 frames to be added to each cassette to allow for loading the film into the camera). Appreciate the link and reply.... Thanks. Cheers Mal Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 <p>Freestyle sells a version just like that I never gave a crap about counters. Set it at start then consider 2 your first frame. that will be the last frame. adjust from there. Roll a few and decide. Just take notes. It is not that tough I always quit at 36 if I roll that far.. If I see waste I know to adjust .</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 <p>I think this type of loader has a felt light trap so make sure it stays free of grit, which can scratch your film. If you are not comfortable with this loader yet, you might want to try a less expensive expired bulk load if you can find one for cheap before spending 50 to over 100 USD for a fresh bulk roll.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 <p>The loaders that I know of have a light trap that opens and closes. I suppose it could still scratch the film.</p> <p>Cheaper loaders have a chart for how many turns of the knob for the specified number of exposures. Most film is close enough to the same thickness, so it usually works. </p> <p>Others have a counter that starts at zero, and you add about five for the leader and frames before the first one that is usable. </p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 <p> Basically you have 2 types of loaders Watson and Lloyd's Loyd's type have a felt trap for light and waste less film where Watson have a movable light trap. I change the felt out in mine every now and then with the Lloyd type. but I run sticky tape through them between bulk rolls.. The one you sho is a composite. it uses the best of both worlds but then I never found the counters on the Watson type to be even close unless I was using Kodak Tri-X.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal_thomas Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 <p>Mike suggested.... "....you might want to try a less expensive expired bulk load if you can find one for cheap before spending 50 to over 100 USD for a fresh bulk roll."<br> <br> Indeed ! My loader has what we believe to be a very old roll of Tri-X in it - got the roll and loader for AUD$20 (less than a pack of smokes).<br> So I'm in front I think even if the film is bad. We'll find out this weekend when I develop a couple of rolls. Plus, if I get 24 frames, I'll know how the counter works too :-)<br> <br> Cheers<br> <br> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambi bambi Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hello Mal: I know it has been a while but if you are still looking for the manual (LPL Dayroll Deluxe 117) I have one and can scan it for you. Let me know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambi bambi Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 The Manual for the LPL Dayroll D 35mm film loader can be downloaded from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray_kelly Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Some of this type of loader can bind up a spool that has a metal core. These are designed for a bulk load without the spool, only a cardboard core. The load should rattle when you shake the loader after you close it up, otherwise the film will get scratches from the tension/force needed to pull the film out. I had one like that and attended to the radiating ridges on the lid with a dremel. Worked fine after that. Only needs a mm or so to allow free rotation inside the box. Listen for the rattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_peters Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 <p>I think this type of loader has a felt light trap so make sure it stays free of grit, which can scratch your film. If you are not comfortable with this loader yet, you might want to try a less expensive expired bulk load if you can find one for cheap before spending 50 to over 100 USD for a fresh bulk roll.</p> The LPL Dayroll has a mechanism that opens the felt light trap when the crank handle is inserted, no scratching possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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