Norman 202

it's so refreshing to have such nice people on the site

John, even the odious Rupert Murdoch put a stop to Page 3 girls which leaves you in a league of your own.

I’ve always loved Martin’s posts on fixed lens film cameras. His photos of the Contax T family of 38/35mm cameras made my subscription to PN worthwhile & rewarding.

Please, be gentle.

Missing Julie, if anyone can believe it...! She was always an excellent instigator.

Julie has been doing her

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stuff every day for a while now. I’m sure she’d appreciate some company.

Unreal Nature

Not sort of following you, Norm....probably my lack of functioning cells in my grey, squishy, stuff

every time the POTW is late Michael has a fit. my point in creating this thread is to allow Michael et al to talk shite aboot a photo.

hope this helps.

Cool car....[ATTACH=full]1253339[/ATTACH]

that’s ghastly

anyhoo, the purpose of this thread was to create a “user generated” POTW to replace the “pn generated” POTW that goes AWOL quite regularly to the annoyance of some of the members.

never mind. at least the mods haven’t deleted it.

Foodwise, we have some very good Ramen houses here in So Cal.

Barry, that looks delicious.

No dip

nope. as much as i appreciate belgian chips with mayonnaise, these chinese chips (kunming, actually) are the best i’ve ever had. shallow fried in oil then tossed in a oil, chilli & herb mix. all for 5 RMB

Michael, just for you

The Brand Spanking new POTW foto 4

John, I just want to say that your Avatar is one of the best things on PN

the girl’s bum? not seen one in a long time, eh, Dave?

i can’t be bothered.

I’ve titled this Chinese Chips because that is what they R. Comments & criticism welcomes

Maybe you should use another nomenclature for what used to be the Photo of the Week, since it's rare nowadays that the next POTW is posted 1 week after the previous one. I suggest something like, "Next Photo for Discussion."

Michael, we looked at this b4.

Q. Why don’t you create a POTW of your own?

A. Because one of our beloved mods will delete it.

Therefore, if u want 2 DISCUSS A PHOTO EVERY WEEK, take the absence of a USER SUGGESTED POTW up with the godly, saintly mods who CRUSH such ACTIVITY, just because.

Mem'ries,

Light the corners of my mind

corners, geddit?

imo, street photography is, really, environmental photography. you are photography humans, dogs, cats, pigeons, etc in their environment in the same way wildlife photography captures animals in their environment.

for example, a bloke jumping over a puddle is the same as a polar bear jumping over an ice hole; a couple kissing in paris is the same as a couple of pigeons getting smootchy; a girl on fire vs a elephant with its tusks severed

both genres are equally capable of being emotive, evocative, sad, funny, etc. and, the best photographers don’t just look to capture humans or animals in their environment. they make it special.

simple, really.

i guess pn is a ghost ship

I never know to whom it is I am speaking around here anymore...... Conversations start with Fred and end with Norma.

Since things are so far off the rails

i luv it.

Thanks Andrew, Briefly, as I know it’s early, is the relationship between input and output

linear

nonlinear (hard)

nonlinear (easy via taylor series expansion)

Is there something your viewpoint is meant to be saying about light and lighting. Are you suggesting that, for example, lighting design is an easier job than sound design and should be worth only half an Academy Award? Is working with light and shadow in a photo easier or automatically less complex than making compositional choices?

Fred, that is typical of you. Melodramatic to the core

Simple layering.......;)

are you capable of contributing to this discussion?

More importantly, is this more than a semantical exercise

no, not at all. just a few thoughts.

Under the old P.net system, it usually took a fair amount of time (several days even) for changes of these kinds to "kick in".

 

Could that still be the case?

i don’t think so. my current avatar (i hate that word*) , in the forums, is of a clueless moron whereas my avatar in my portfolio is an abstract photo of naked dancing girls. I changed the latter a few months ago.

*and the fillum

If we're talking about lighting complexity, and we note that added light on a second subject affects the ambient light, or if we're talking about the difference between lighting a subject with a fairly simple setup against a black background vs. lighting a subject with a fairly simple setup against a more multi-dimensional background where the added background lighting can create degrees of depth and shadows on which the subject's shadows can now be cast, I just don't see how we wouldn't want to call that more complex lighting.

if you shine two or more lights, coloured or otherwise, on a subject, and know how it responds to light, the maths is known.

barry, welcome. no need to apologize.

i’ve been thinking about this and i’ve tried to put my thoughts in order. i think increasing the number of inputs (light sources, coloured lights, strobes, flashes, etc) doesn’t make lighting complex, it just changes things in an obviously simple, well understood way.