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<p>whats are the inherent differences between these 2 cameras other than the touch screen body grip and internal flash of the P3....<br /><br />seems like pretty much the same camera.<br /><br />internally...what am I missing?<br /><br />thanks</p>

<p>just got turned on to the PL3 and it looks like a nice camera.<br /><br />Looking to scale down from a DSLR and this looks like it would be a suitable replacement for times when a "professional" camera is not allowed and the fourthirds sensor will not leave me lacking.<br /><br />it comes with a 14-42 MM lens and seems like it would be ideal....<br /><br />thoughts?</p>

<p>Robin,<br /><br />YMMV?<br /><br />thanks for suggesting that Olympus PEN E PL3. I checked it out and it seems like a nice little camera.<br />The 14-42mm seems ideal. I just checked all my pictures from my trip and I would say 75% are between 18-55MM.<br />for times when I zoomed most are 78-125MM ( the lens I have on the K100D is 18-250MM) and when I did that a few steps closer to the subject would have been just as good if I didnt have the longer lens but some were pretty far off but whatever....<br /><br />right now, I think the Olympus is a front runner.<br /><br />I also saw a 14-150 MM lens for that camera for like $150 bucks...not bad for the times when I need a little zoom.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p>

<p>Hot on the heels of Carl Zeiss's decision to become simply Zeiss, Pentax Ricoh has decided that from August 1st it will be known simply as Ricoh. It's not all bad news for Pentax fans though - the brand name will continue to be used on the company's SLRs and interchangeable lens cameras. Meanwhile the Ricoh name will be used for compact cameras and, cryptically, 'new technological innovations'.</p>

<p>Gary,<br /><br />not sure if I mentioned the Photography contest in this thread ( to lazy to go back and look) but thats one of the things I said when I got there too...wtf.<br /><br />as for the ticket, there was some crap on it about me allowing my image to be used if it was taken which was one of the things that also pissed me off...but I guess these are their rules and yes, they laid some of it off on the Motion picture industry and the music industry.<br /><br />I also found out that when there are no events going on you are free to roam around and take pictures..<br /><br />whatever....next time I'll be prepared.</p>

<p>Robin,<br /><br />Thats an interesting little camera for 260 bucks!</p>

<p>I had the 40mm on the K01 and it is so flat it almost looks like you have no lens...lol<br /><br />that K-r doesnt seem too much smaller than the K100d<br /><br />here is a new wrench in the works....I just saw the 50 and 500 on the Pentax website but that damn K30 is so appealing.<br /><br />I need to take a few days break from all this and play my bass....part if what I would like is just to be free of large camera's and camera bags but I hate the idea of sacrificing IQ with a P&S sized camera except the ones you have all mentioned of course<br /><br /><br /></p>

<p>Wouter,<br /><br />that MX-1 is kind of nice. I already have the I10 and its a great little pocket camera. no where near the level of the MX but it takes great snaps and the macro is awesome.</p>

<p>Steve,<br /><br />The big con for me with e GX1 is the constant mention of slow autofocus. <br /><br />now the other downside of air through the lens while moving in and out on the Canon or anything else with a fix lens would be the inability to get to the sensor as compared to a ILc.<br /><br />that link for Adorama is denied...what model camera is it?<br /><br />I am starting to lean back towards the K30 and at that price get the K01 also and just keep a 18-55 mm on it. that certainly doesn look like a "professional" camera...lol<br /><br />Thanks for ALL your time and thoughts</p>

<p>I have been using my Pentax K100D since 2006. looking for an upgrade I was going to get one of those mirrorless cameras. I tried the K01 and am interested in a k30 then I started looking at a non ILC without giving up sensor size either there are a lot of choices.<br /><br />still not sure if I want to drop the DSLR completely I found a little gem the other day. Canon GX1<br /><br />seems like a nice middle ground camera<br /><br />thoughts?<br /><br /></p>

<p>Dammit Wouter! stop making sense <br /><br />lol<br /><br />I'll tell you what......I got a proper sensor cleaning kit yesterday. I will clean my Sensor and lenses and get back to This thread. <br /><br />I do appreciate the points you made about the superzooms pushing air. <br /><br />what are your thoughts on the high mp 1/2.3 sensors vs the bigger sensor in the Canon GX1 as a compact in general?</p>

<p>David,<br />That NEX is pretty cool and I think its full frame but I am looking more for a fixed lens.<br /><br />and really! a cell phone as your camera...how dare you...lol<br /><br />although, maybe you are on to something<br /><br /><img src="http://images.freshnessmag.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/07/photojojo-apple-iphone-slr-lens-mount-01.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="450" /></p>

<p>Steve,<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />I have seen a few 1/1.7 camera's and they look ok, I'll have to look a little more into it. right now the 2 cameras that are really standing out for me are the Canon GX1. I had it in my hands today and reading every page of the DPreview on it and it seems like what I am looking for.<br /><br />I agree the guy in the store seemed a bit condescending. I had told him I have been shooting Pentax since I was 10 and when he handed me the Canon he said now you know what a real camera feels like. dont worry, I took the opportunity to tell him I actually touched a Nikon the other day and I felt as if I needed to take a shower....he was wearing a Nikon polo...lol<br /><br />as for a Superzoom...even though it has the 1/2.3 sensor the Lumix FZ200 is real appealing.When I mentioned that one of the selling points of that camera was that the camera has " a lens with an F2.8 maximum aperture across its entire zoom range." he basically said bullshit..<br /><br />No, My K100D doesnt have a dust removal system. before not being allowed into a place with my "professional" camera ( the K100D) last week while I was on vacation, I was pretty much going to get the K30. the K5II is a little much for my needs and the K30 is a major step up from the 100D. My all around lens for my K100D is the 18-250mm Pentax. so that could go right on the K30 but your right, the 18-135mm would probably be better. <br /><br />I would rather get the K30 or even the K01 again but other than sensor size, getting into places with a camera that is not deemed "Professional" or ILC is my other goal without sacrificing IQ.<br /><br />Thanks a lot for your input<br /><br /><br /><br /></p>

<p>I may be hung up on sensor size and some issues that I have keeping my sensor clean, you fine folks will guide me in the direction I am looking to go I am sure.<br /><br />admittedly I have not been good at keeping my sensor clean on the K100D, it has been frustrating but my own fault. I just got a proper kit today and am going to check it out over the weekend.<br /><br />I would like a seal body camera for times when I got to events that restrict DSLR's and for general 18-100mm shots of my family,adventurs and what not.<br /><br />I feel that a larger 4/3rds or aps-c sensor is better than a 1/2.3 with the same MP crammed into it...am I right?<br /><br />I visited a local store today and the guy there says that if I am not printing bigger than 8X10 then the small sensor is all I need.<br /><br />I have toyed with the idea of the superzoom cameras with the 42-50 time zoom to 1000MM but I really dont shoot that far.<br />but what are those images going to look like on a small sensor.<br /><br />I checked out the canon GX1 and it really seems like a nice camera. fixed lens 28-140 MM<br /><br />it seemed more solid that all the others I played with or reviewed in the last week or so including the Nikon P502, Lumix FZ200 and a Sony NEX<br /><br />what I am looking for is a camera without a removable lens so that my crappy sensor cleaning issues dont F up my shots without compromising IQ that I get from my K100D...<br /><br />my other thought, even though its a ILC camera is going back to that ugly as hell K01 which produced some great shots in good light( I heard there was a software fix for the slow AF in low light)<br /><br />any help short of a straight jacket would be appreciated<br /><br /></p>

<p>and all they ever talk about is that mile high city...smh...lol</p>

<p>where the hell do you live Matt...Mount Ararat!!<br /><br />lol</p>

<p>Michael,<br /><br />just taking fun,family, documentation shots of my life's adventures. not looking to capture a time life cover shot necessarily. same thing I do with the K100D</p>

<p>so, I have reviewed 3 suitable camera's for these types of situations. What are your opinions on these three.<br /><br />and R.T I was looking at those camera's last year but they are "interchangeable" lenses so I want to avoid them.<br /><br />Pentax X-5<br /><br />Lumix FZ200 ( I like the features of this one best)<br /><br />Nikon P520 or the L820 but the P seems like a better camera<br /><br />what are your opinions?<br /><br /><br /></p>

<p>Bruce, <br /><br />If they looked at my photo's they would know aint nobody paying me for them...lol</p>

<p>lol Tim<br /><br />I'll tell ya, I am usually the "F*** the man" type but if you ever walked up stairs at almost 7000 feet its kind of difficult when you are gasping for air...</p>

<p>Tim,<br /><br />I use one lens...a 18-250 MM lens. from 40 feet away the "security person/bag checker" saw me taking a picture and yelled SIR! you cant bring a pro camera in here. I said I was not professional......she said its a detachable lens. my wife was like how the hell did she know that from that far away..<br /><br />lol</p>

<p>John H, when I did view the rules they stated that it was not their rules but the motion picture industry's rules....<br /><br />Gary, I agree but.....my printed tickets which I checked said nothing. I was from out of town maybe my hosts could have mentioned something about it if they knew<br /><br />whatever........</p>

<p>HP, Douglas, <br /><br />Already on that. I will be getting either the Lumix or the Pentax models I posted earlier. they are pretty cheap comparatively speaking and have great features. </p>

<p>Peter,<br /><br /> I forgot to include.......I went to this venue for a Movie. basically I would have taken my pictures then put my camera away. I am aware of this rule for MSG in NY where I generally got for concerts and what not. this place is at 6,700 feet with a 1/4 mile walk up some steps...the sight and the checkers should have been at the bottom.<br /><br />there was no indication on my ticket that this particular camera wasnt allowed</p>

<p>Exactly Tim and not to forget that everyone with an iPhone has an 8mp camera and they upload them directly to social media.<br /><br />I was thinking of getting a k-5 or K-30 but am looking hard at the Pentax X-5, the Lumix FZ200 or one of the big Nikon Cool pix cameras just to avoid this crap</p>