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Who give Charles Manson access to a computer?

Instead of buying another lens get a good book on 35mm photography "The 35mm Handbook" by Micheal Freeman is very good and covers a pretty wide range of techniques, lens info, and much more. although it is a film book the techniques described and the elemetary laws of physics that apply to lenses and their functions applie to digital as well. While you will get some good information from a site such as this you will also get just as much if not more misinformation. Micheal Freeman is a working professinal photographer and gives good accurate advise.

Kiss, kiss, smooch, Pete you are just too kind for an Aussie and brave in showing your gentler side, KICK, THUMP, BELT, BASH, would not even get the point across to some of these argumentative Leica boys.

 

Perhaps the new Australian new age man that is emerging is the reason why you have such a shocking national rugby team at the moment, the "Wallys" aren't they called? Oh yes, I will send you the charred steak and warm flat beer you asked for soon ;-)

There are several 1st surface mirrors in a Mirror lens meaning the silver emulsion is on the top of the glass not underneath like a household mirror. One wipe with virtually anything will ruin the soft 1st surface mirror and make the lens totally useless. Contact your Sigma agent and find out a cost to check it out whether it is worth repairng.

"Constant toil is the law of art" Balzac

 

A true artist is on an evolving path and and experimenting with new techniques and ideas. This type of person is their own harshest critic and can look at their work objectively.

 

If you want to be able to edit photographs in an objective manner, all you need to do is work under a photo editor for a magazine or publication, and see some of the stuff you feel a bit precious about get unceremoniously trash canned early on in your career, then your horizons expand somewhat.

 

Photography is the avenue that every person can create an image with and doesn't require special skills such as those of a manual artist or a high class graphic designer, Every mans Art so to speak.

 

There is often a high amount of pretentiousness involded in photography once a lot of money has been spent on acquiring equipment that does not actually earn the photographer income, this may be to provide them with some justification for spending vast amounts of money on just a hobby.

Then some people are just gear freaks and not photographers at all, what can a photographer learn from them?

 

Many of the "experts" propound theory, and specifications but don't have a source of images to balance their viewpoint against.

 

I would be more inclined to respect and learn from someone who has good knowledge and good image making skills that can actually be viewed

 

Do you suck Andrew? I never said that you do, only you know the answer to that.

 

The two lense's in question here will work fine and many beautiful images have been taken with both.

 

Colin Carron has had both and given a good balanced opinion on the virtues and vices of each. He is also a fine photographer and ever the courteous gentleman.

Also take into consideration that Lois is a non image contributor, so we cannot see from his portfolio that he has much experience to base an opinion on.

 

I have not used the 12-24 Sigma, but see the fact that it is a full frame lens as some advantage, occasionally 12mm would come in handy if you had that option. Not far down the track, full frame digital Canon DSLR will be easily affordable.

 

I have used Sigma EXs from the year 2000 and have had no compatability or mechanical problems.

 

Unlike Lois, I do have some pics posted in my portfolio and taken with a variety of 35mm stuff Nikon, Canon L, and Sigma EX........... hard to say which is which..............

I would recommend a .357 Smith and Wesson Magnum for shooting a light skinned person wearing a very dark, say black trenchcoat on the street at night. A double tap to the trench coat may be more effective than FEL to the face just in case you miss.

Hmmmmmmmmmm not bad under those lighting conditions Rene, but she has a yellowish hue from the supermarket lighting system (sodium vapour lighting?)

'L' stands for layabout, which is what you do with your 70-200 2.8 or larger if some lowlife says "Gimme da camera punk!" The reason why it is white is so you can clean off the bloodstains completely, which is rather difficult with a black Nikon ED lens

The pics are nice Rob but no need for such obsequious suckholing you will give Albert a swollen head!

Bugger off Frank!

Nothing wrong with the 70-200 2.8 EX HSM Sigma. I have used the Canon 70-200L and have the Sigma version as part of my editorial kit. The focusing speed is very similar, with a slight edge to the Canon. The build quality of the Sigma is excellent and it is a robust lens. Click on my name in and check out the Airshow folders in my portfolio, many of these pics were taken with the Sigma 70-200 2.8 EX HSM. If price is a big factor buy the Sigma with confidence.

Why not swim with a Leica? Daring people pay to swim with sharks and dolphins so rich dudes should show somw class and swim with their Leicas!

Me either, unforunately.

Long way to go for a beer. The cost of the fare there and back could fund me into a nice M6 TTL and a couple of good lenses for it if that is what turns my handle!

But what are ya fondling when you are looking at those pics Pete?

I try and talk to repair technicians and avoid being an early adopter!

Plenty depends on your technique and experience. Plenty of dynamic action pics at various shutter speeds were taken with 70-200 2.8s of various persuasions before Canon originated Image Stabilisation as a built in lens option.

 

All the activities that you have listed in your post have been done with non IS fast telephotos and do not require IS to obtain a good successful hit rate. All that is really required is experience.

 

The point above that the rate of keepers in some circumstances may be increased with IS is one advantage, but at a cost!

 

It is a handy tool, but many photographers buy such an equipped lens only to learn that it is not a panacea for poor technique.

 

If it is easily in the range of your pocket book, fine, buy a 70-200 2.8L IS. If not, you can have the personal satisfaction of saving a few bucks and knowing that your own skill and hard work has got them future lovely keepers in your portfolio from your 70-200 2.8L

Oh, please interpret those couple of strange words in my post read as 'photographers'

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, you could be Frank. Many of the most successful professinal photograghers are better at business management that as photgraphers. Your reasoning shows several contradictions in the posts you have made.

Also check that the Photoshop 7 image "Save for web" file you are trying to upload has not defaulted to 'All files" format and is still "Image giff/jpeg"

 

The one pic at a time is a good thing in my eyes as otherwise we would be even more flooded with crappy pics!

Yeah and Al would only accidentally shoot himself because he mistakenly thinks he was in his other life and popping yet another one of his own mug with that 15mm instead of pointing a Navy Colt at his own head (but has'nt he just done that?)

Agree with Dave Sims. If you are a professional shooter, keep your digital kit, do more sports work and get that to fund your Leica and lenses for niche work, that way it is just another tool (which is all it really is ;-) plus it is tax deductible!

Hmmmmmmm, guess this thread just confirms that to be a Leica user one must be part of a group that is by and large ostentatious and puerile, behaviour that could be found in any Kindergarten (preschool to all you Americans)

 

Tony, on topic, but off topic for some here. The

 

 

http://www.computer-darkroom.com

 

 

site recommended much further up the thread by a couple of the saner members here, before it rapidly degenerated into childish oneupmanship, would be an excellent place to get a good grounding in how to go about getting good prints from you Epson printer and how to 'soft proof' your computer and printer in concise but easily understood language. Much more informative than any short post of advice on our wonderful pnet community could ever be;-)

 

I also tried several times to get a direct link for you to follow, but the previous recommender's succeeded where i cannot for some reason.

 

Please do not delete this ridiculously funny thread, after all it is the silly season.

Canon also make a fair few "cheap quality lens" to fit cameras in their EOS range, so "Caveat Emptor!"