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Quote "Jim Larson , feb 25, 2006; 10:23 a.m.

Savas;

I seems we have a number of high strung individuals on photo.net "Canon EOS forum" these days."

 

And some of us 'high strung individuals' where here a little while before you joined Jim ;-) Maybe we just don't like supercilious trolls

Because I can look at one (that belongs to someone else) without having to use it!

Or just get a stunning nude chick to hold it,(the camera of course!) and you should be able to avoid pharmaceutical assistance ;-)

How droll Gampi ;-) and really is the most important flaw with the 30D

Well Savas, you set yourself up to get smacked around a bit and deserved what you got when you already knew the answer to the question you posed, as your E10 had a built in flash and you also had a shoe mounted dedicated one for it.

 

What would be different with an EOS SLR and built in flash or Dedicated unit?

No point taking the moral high ground when you set yourself up to be knocked down Savas!

 

 

You wasted the time of those who took your post as a valid question.

 

 

"I smell a troll, troll, de roll." Welcome to Photonet new member.

The technofreak people moaning about the lack of improvements in the 30D are just total tossers. Those improvements are already in place in more expensive Canon cameras the 5D, 1D MK 11, 1Ds Mk11, Get real idiots, you pays for what you gets, if you want those goodies now pony up with the loot and stop bleating.

 

We don't hear professional photographers moaning too much about lack of features in top of the line DSLRs, only firmware problems that become apparent after a new model is introduced, the result is usually a promote firmware update if the complaints are widespread and valid.

 

I can understand perfectly why some people in this thread and similar are getting short with the petulant whingers who expect everything handed to them on a platter and at half price too!

I would say a five to ten year lifespan would be a good lifetime for a DSLR of 6mp or larger if one does not blindly follow down the path of technocratic ideology and become a consumer puppet.

 

 

The quality of digital images, with APS sized sensors, from when the D60 Canon and D100 Nikon were introduced is good enough for most photographers that want a good general usage camera.

As can be seen with the newly introduced 30D, improvements appear to have levelled off a bit for the time being and are at the incremental stage rather than quantum leaps, like the D60 was.

 

 

I am not anti digital like the poster above who gets a perfect SNAP every time he pushes the shutter button (don't we all, whether or not it is a good photograph is another story.) and do not begrudge any PHOTOGRAPHER the means they use to capture an image.

 

 

I must admit to having a sneaky bitchy streak and do like giving some of those pompous Leica gear heads a jab in the bum with a hat pin every now and then. to bring them down to earth.

 

DSLR gear heads are just too stupid and boring to even bother jabbing.

One of the advantages of a good shoe mounted flash is that the head can be swivelled to get indirect fill lighting that does not cast hard shadows behind close subjects.

 

If you intend to become a proficent photographer, you will buy a dedicated shoe mount flash as a useful tool somewhere down the line, whether you buy a 30D or 5D so why not right at the start, along with a couple of lenses, and another camera bag to hold all this stuff?

 

Oh yes, the reason Nikon, Canon, etc are called camera systems is because there are plenty of useful items that are made to attach to whatever body you decide to buy and make it much more versatile than a fixed lens camera.

Nothing is wrong with the 30D. The problem is people who think that extra tecnology will increase their skill as photographers, but that aint so! Improved technology just makes it much easier to take shitty pics ;-)

No matter what camera you use, 10D, 20D, or 5D, noise will be apparent in any underexposed areas in low light photography and a noise reduction program is only a partial answer in this case.

Or maybe they could go take some pics instead Dave!

Another thing that will often remove a stuck filter is to hold the lens well supported in your hand and the filter supported by two fingers, tap carefully but firmly on the opposite outer side of the filter a few times with something narrow and reasonably heavy, turn the lens around to a couple of different positions. This will often centre the filter in the thread and it can then be unscrewed by hand in the normal manner.

Oh well, I've had my laughing fit for the day, I won't be rude boys, and pull your willies. Quite a few of the luddites in this thread are already doing that :-)

" Quote Leon Chang , feb 21, 2006; 03:06 a.m.

I have a great deal of experience with the EOS 10D but eventually I choose to go back to film and a Leica MP. Nothing against Canon and their products but let's face it: this is ridiculous. " unquote

 

 

BOBBBBBBB! whats this Leica tosser doing in the Canon Forum stirring up trouble? ;-)

Hmmmmmmmm....... Oh yes, you could have added the skill to utilise that gear as well Lex.

Now is the age of the semi pro who earns a bit as a side line and undercuts the working photographer thats needs to charge prices that include taxes, equipment replacement costs and all the other things required to run a business.

A lot of publishers will take the low cost way but the ones with their heads screwed on will contract photographers with a proven track record of reliability and consistent results plus being able to work to a brief.

 

Either system will meet your requirements but will require a solid outlay of cash to set you up.

 

In my opinion a 50mm 1.4 a 50mm macro an 85 1.8, a wide fast zoom in the 15- 40 range, a 24-70 2.8 a 70-200 2.8 and 1.4 teleconvertor, two bodies the same (D 200 or 20D) (you could get away with a couple of S/h 10Ds if you are very competent)and two system dedicated powerful flash units, a couple of sturdy equipment bags, eg Lowepro Reporter 600 AW and a Lowepro Toploader 75 AW, a monopod for low light work, 4 one gig CF cards, 5 camera batteries would be the absolute minimum required.

 

Doesn't have to be Nikon or Canon lense's or flashes. Metz and Sigma make good flash units that will work with Nikon or Canon and you could start with EX Sigma lenses and replace them with Brand models as they earn you income if you need to.

A portfolio and reference base of happy clients will help to pick up more work from new clients.

A bad workman does not respect his tools. Maintenance is a quick and easy task if is part of your standard routine. A camera doesn't need to be babied, just respected if you wish to get the best out of it.

 

 

Imagine a carpenter with seven fingers (because he'd chopped the other three off using blunt tools) who brought a new chisel every time the last one he brought went blunt. The chisel makers would love him but he would be a poor carpenter.

 

 

My well maintained 10D and D60 are still working great for me!

Graham Down runs of sobbing to join the Leica Forum. Pnets version of the Foreign Legion

I also am a bit worried about my Sigma 70-200 2.8 EX HSM, both the focus ring and the zoom ring are beautifully dampened and turn smoothly and freely with just the right amount of resistance. Seeing that the far superior Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS has a tight zoom ring only suitable for Arnold Schwartznegger types, as has been confirmed by several owners and users in this post, do you think there may be something wrong with my Sigma?

Not directed at you Trevor. Always the gentleman, you provided the answer to the code!

Typical Leica forum in house "boys in the know" crap and pretention. First time I've seen the Magnum photorapher David Alan Harvey referred to as DAH. No wonder so many Pnetters think that some of you guys are wankers. Fortunately there are many sensible posters in this forum to;-)

Aha the answer is clear now Huw, the secret is out, you are such a good camera fiddler because you have three arms and hands, otherwise how did you photograph this, while sawing off those extremities, while holding the M2 down on the desk?

These so called abbreviations are just plain laziness. Would be much simpler if people used the Queens English, then anyone with a reasonable grasp of English could clearly understand what is being said.

Consider instead a 70-200 2.8 EX HSM Sigma new or second hand, This lens compares very well to the Canon L 70-200 2.8 at half the cost or even less if second hand. You may never need to buy that Canon L medium zoom telephoto.;-)

There is some heavy duty serious voltage in a DSLR so it may just be a fuse, Read the Manual!

Roh beer Dwah-no makes me smile, Sebastio Salgado makes me weep, Eggleston makes me sick, and Anne Geddes makes me ashamed to be a kiwi.

But, I can tell you that her husband Kel is a big wheel entrepreneur here in New Zealand and Australia and has plenty of clout, so just goes to show that even if you are a piss poor photographer like Anne, if you have an expert marketing machine that people are terrified to offend sharing your bed, anything can happen.

Watch the missing persons list for Erin Boyd if Kel gets to read this ;-0