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I agree too John. The OP massively clipped the red channel as shown in Levels overlay in Photoshop. But if I try other images, I can't reproduce this so I have no idea what edits in “ACR lite” caused this. There is no clipping in the raw data. The answer and fix would appear to be: don't clip your channels. Why Elements shows this only on 16-bit data at a certain zoom ratio???
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Oh, in that folder on Dropbox is the XMP which, at least with real Adobe Camera Raw will allow you to open your raw with MY edits used to produce the TIFF also in that folder. Again, the best way to share this is with DNG as the raw plus edits are all in the container. But I have no idea if Adobe Camera Raw lite in Elements would deal with it (but it should, it's DNG). If you want to go back and forth sharing true raw plus edits, DNG is the easiest way to do so. But any features in real Adobe Camera Raw not supported in Adobe Camera Raw lite (Elements) wouldn't work.
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Got your raw, open it, do some minor edits (you could do your own, save out DNG, so the edits are embedded), and open it in Elements. No green overlay. I have no idea what you're doing to this poor raw, but there isn't anything in that raw (as Tony and I spoke about earlier) that is the issue. It is maybe how you're rendering it. I'm using the real Adobe Camera Raw and ending up in 16-bit, ProPhoto. Again, no issue with Haze, auto, or with any settings. The raw rendering is subjective. I'm not suggesting the version I provided quickly is ideal or what you want from the raw. But then nothing produces any issues in Elements in 16-bit with Haze Removal. Its also very unlikely this edit is needed (Clarity or DeHaze would be the way to handle this with the raw data, not afterward). Here's the TIFF (albeit in ProPhoto/16-bit) from the raw: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5pdg5tpm36ebmc2/AACkV6Ael4wnYyhppI-mVlbaa?dl=0 It's your processing. I can't find any 16bit images that produce this problem. It boils down to GIGO:Garbage In Garbage Out. Maybe you need to rethink whatever you're doing with your version of Adobe Camera Raw on this data or simply not using Haze Removal.
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I've tried nearly half a dozen 16-bit documents, but can't reproduce what shows up in your one document. This is a sample of many images, 16-bit, Adobe RGB (1998) zero issues in Elements: Try it. http://www.digitaldog.net/files/2014PrinterTestFileFlat.tif.zip This is another sample of many images, 16-bit, ProPhoto RGB and again, zero issues in Elements: Try it. http://www.digitaldog.net/files/Gamut_Test_File_Flat.tif Test_File_Flat.tif Yes or no; you see the green?
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It's your image data (why no idea yet...) I render a raw in Elements version (crippled version) of Adobe Camera Raw, and the overlay shows clipping in the red channel. Set for 16-bit. Open in Elements, and run Haze Removal: no issues, no green overlay. So what's up with that PSD of yours? The next step is to upload the raw.
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Something seems to be messed up in your document. Yes I see the green on your 16-bit version; worse is what I see on your 8-bit per color document in the preview (see below). Yes, zooming in, it disappears so it's not in the data! If I open a 16-bit document of mine and run either Haze Removal or Auto Haze Removal, there are no issues (see below). So the next question is, do you only see this green issue on this one image?
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"The first human being who hurled an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilization." -Sigmund Freud Just follow the instructions or move on! Zoom into the 16-bit image until you see the green issue; make screen capture.Zoom into the 8-bit image the same way; make screen capture. Save crop (or entire image) in native format, zip and upload both to something like Dropbox. The raw isn't the issue; it IS RAW! Are you that lost on problem-solving what you tell us is a bug in Elements (more assumptions)? Just send a tagged image in the ORIGINAL format (TIFF, PSD, whatever) in both 8-bit and 16-bit that YOU PROCESSED in Elements. I don’t know if you are purposely trying not to understand this, or if you are really struggling with it. Wait, it's both.
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Too bad. You're utterly unable to follow the most straightforward instructions as outlined a few minutes ago. Sending a raw is pointless as I'm sure Tony knows. Its clear you know nothing about Dropbox (or alternatives), both available for free. IF it isn't free? "Ignorance is brought about by assumption."-T. D. Jakes Yes. But any further suggestions would be ignored as all the other suggestions here have been by the two of us. It's rather clear on all three sites you've asked about this 'issue' that the agenda isn't a solution, it rarely is with you. You got a few people's attention, the real agenda; isn't that enough for you until next time? Appears not.
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He is lost again Tony and unable to follow the simplest instructions to aid him in solving the issue: Zoom into the 16-bit image until you see the green issue; make screen capture.Zoom into the 8-bit image the same way; make screen capture. Save crop (or entire image) in native format, zip and upload both to something like Dropbox. No wonder everyone on the other two forums has given up on this silliness. "Listen to understand instead of listening to respond." - Barack Obama
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As I initially suspected, and like the other two locations where this question was asked*: we're not getting anywhere. * https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=142176.0 * https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-elements-discussions/green-patches-after-using-auto-haze-removal/m-p/13618633#M88693