q.g._de_bakker Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Errr... I don't think so. So what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_gottschalk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Art, or fine art, is distinguished from craft. It's a combination of a good or great idea combined with an aesthetic sensibility. And yes, craft can be used to express this but it's not central. Indeed, some very wonderful "art" can be anti-craft. I guess you could say that something that degrades craft is a form of craft, but the idea comes first, followed by sensibility. Just MHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Then, Arthur, you appear to agree with what you dismiss. The only mistake you make is that you say "Art, or fine art", as if there is no difference. There, of course is. And the specific difference between the two is all about craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Clyde Butcher is now providing digital prints as well as film prints at a lower cost, still pretty high for his work. I've seen both in his gallery in Venice Florida and the digital prints looks as good as the chemical ones for those who want to save a little money yet have a Butcher print. Obviously, there's less work involved with a digital print. So that will account for it's cheaper price as well. It's faster to produce copies and no spotting. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_gottschalk Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Big Clyde Butcher fan. I saw his work in the Everglades studio, with an alligator lurking outside. I wonder if his digital prints are laser using photo paper or ink jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Big Clyde Butcher fan. I saw his work in the Everglades studio, with an alligator lurking outside. I wonder if his digital prints are laser using photo paper or ink jet. I think I saw a digital printer in his Venice Gallery and lab. You could call them. I'm sure they'll let you know. He had a little note on it reminding his workers to adjusts one of the variables to a particular setting. He now shoots digitally because of his age and the weight of the equipment. He uses a Cambo Actus with a digital 36 megapixel Sony A7R camera and RZ-67 Mamiya medium format lenses. https://clydebutcher.com/about-the-artist/technical-information/ Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I just noticed he spells it out in that link in my past post. "an Epson Stylus Pro 11880 printer. He uses archival Ultrachrome K3 ink and prints on archival Harman Hahnemuhle paper. The limited-editon print is then mounted and matted to current archival standards." Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_gottschalk Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I remember when I first saw his work years ago. Large murals as you entered the airport in Miami. I was stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 The last one I remember had different printing methods, such as platinum prints. So still starting with a film negative, but not silver based prints. As well as I know it, in the case of platinum prints, and some other alternative methods, the artist coats their own paper. Whether the coating process is any "finer", in fine art terms, I don't know. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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