larry_servin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I've processed 2 rolls of 120 film and these lines have shown up. I know it's not the camera (Hasselblad 503 CW) cause I had a roll processed professionally when I first got the camera last month & the lines are no where to be seen. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzC345V4I2gyc19icDJDOElfMjg My process in dark bag with samigon stainless steel tank on a stainless steel reel: D-76 Stop bath Fixer Wash Photo-Flo I'm thinking it has to do with the water drying on the film, cause I don't see the lines when it comes out of the tank. My first roll processed had way more lines on it & I had done the photo flo before the final wash on accident. (Reason why I'm thinking it's the water) I haven't tried to run them under water to see if they would come off but I did try to wipe them off the top piece of the film after I cut if off with no luck. Thank you for any tips!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>Without seeing a scan I doubt we can tell as all I see is reflection.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>Remember that stuff can enter your camera any time you open the back and sometimes even when you don't. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Howard Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>Those don't look like scratches, they look like water marks...or, from wiping the film. Did you wipe the film when wet to get off most of the water? That's what it looks like to me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>Mike that was my thought that is why I asked for more.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_servin Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Larry: I haven't gotten any scans(blew all the budget on the camera haha) but yes, I try to keep it clean<br /><br /> Michael: that's what I thought too, but I'm not sure how to get rid of them. When I processed my first roll I squeegeed them with my fingers but then I saw the marks so I thought that was the cause. But my second roll I didn't squeegee at all and there was less of them but the second one I did the photo flo at the end of the process, I should've tried to squeegee them but like I said, I thought I was gonna end up with the same result as the first roll. Anything you think I could try to get rid of them? Soak em & squeegee em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>Never squeegee fingers or anything else.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_servin Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Larry: so after the rinse and photo flo I just hang to dry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p> Yes sir and don't over photoflo and use Distilled water to mix it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_servin Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Larry: got ya! What is the proper photo flo time & dilution? I was told to use half a cap(the cap on the photo flo bottle) to 500ml of distilled, and for the time I was just using the 30~ seconds that was at the end of the massive dev timer app(HP5+ in D-76) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>OMG Cap measures. The caps are different every year Get the directions from Kodak and reduce by 25%. Use the instructions on the bottle and reduce 25%. many times though I use a pinkie. I dip my pinkie finger in the bottle to the end of the fingernail and then swish that in the tank. :D</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_servin Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 So I assume that I'm using waaayyyy too much haha half a cap is way more than that! Maybe that's what's going on. Hmm, I just loaded up a roll of Delta 3200, I'm going to try to get through this roll so that I can see how it goes.<br /> <br /> How long do you keep the film in the photo flo?<br /><br /> By the way, thank you for your time!! I appreciate it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>Time in does not matter. You want no bubbles but you want tension of the water relieved. Mix according to the directions in distilled water but reduced by 25% and then report back. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 <p>I got a pack of eye droppers at my local Walgreens years ago, http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-eye/ear-dropper/ID=prod6215691-product . One will hold 4.5 to 5 ml with the rubber cap collapsed, inserted into the photoflo then the rubber cap slowly released. Once filled with photoflo empty it into the tank, fil the eyedropper with tank water 2 to 4 times, spin the reel 1 to 2 turns, let bubbles subside then pour off the rinse water. I sometimes shake the reel off or just let it sit for a minute and drain then hang to dry handling as little as possible.</p> <p>I use filtered tap water.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Bowes Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 <p>Hello everyone. 4-5 ml of photo-flo per 350 or 450 ml tank (mine are Nikor) is WAY TO MUCH ! Use 0.5 or 1.0 ml and soak for 3 minutes max. Hang to dry without any physical monkey business. If you are in a very hot or tropic area, mist spray 2x each side with DI water. Here in Hawaii I do the misting, in Puget Sound just hang the film in a steamed up bath room shower area.<br> 5ml dispensing bulbs area available in any WalMart pharmacy. Aloha, Bill</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 <p>The amount of photoflo one needs per 500ml water depends on the water. In some locations I once lived I needed 25% more, some 15% less but 100%+ less than half a cap full of the pint container the photoflo was in.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 <p>Usual Photo-flo is called Photo-Flo 200, with a 1:200 dilution.</p> <p>There is also Photo-Flo 2100, only in one gallon bottles: dilute 1:2100.</p> <p>It used to come in a 4oz bottle, with a pretty small cap. The 16oz bottle has a larger cap.<br> One capful of the small cap might be right, not of the big one.</p> <p>I run my fingers, wet from the tank, down the film, but not like a squeegee. Just the tension from a film clip on the bottom to hold it against my finger. Gets off the big drops.</p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_jones1 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 <p>I find that 2 to 3 drops of Kodak Photoflow in a Patterson tank with one 35mm reel is plenty, about 450 ml water.<br> <br /> Just let the drops fall into the tank. Raise and lower or rotate the film reel to disperse the photoflo. At this stage you will have a few bubbles on the surface. After a minute or two when you are ready to hang the film the bubbles will have reduced and possibly disappeared altogether.<br> <br /> I find that any touching of the wet film just moves the water around. If you are really brave and your film is well attached at it's top clip, you can give the film a couple of gentle whips to flick off the larger water drops. Did it last night for first time and I'll be sticking with this technique rather than physically touching wet emulsion.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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