bobatkins Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 <p>Looks like the USA missed out again. Some time ago the EOS M2 was released, but only in Japan. Now we have the EOS M3 announced in Europe and Asia, but not a word on it from Canon USA. Looks like they've given up on that market here.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 <p>No biggie as there are plenty of choices from Oly, Panasonic, Fuji, Leica, Sam Sung and Sony. And I figure Canon knows the USA market is pretty darn small for such a camera. I rarely see American tourists carrying mirrorless cameras in Waikiki--they toprefer phones or DSLRs--but white Olympus Pens are all the rage with Japanese women.</p> Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_merriman1 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 <p>I kept my EOS M-1 because of the small size, decent sensor and the fantastic 22mm lens. I was considering an upgrade to the EOS M-3 but Canon doesn't seem interested in marketing it in the US. Guess I will be keeping the Sony A6000 I bought recently and selling the M-1. BTW, where is a Canon full-frame mirrorless camera? Size and weight have become very important to me lately for some of my shooting. I sold my 5D III and am looking at Sony's full frame options (I will keep the EOS 7DII and 100-400II). I have used Canon exclusively for over 30 years and and am disappointed that I am having to look at other options.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 <blockquote> <p> BTW, where is a Canon full-frame mirrorless camera? Size and weight have become very important to me lately for some of my shooting.</p> </blockquote> <p>They'll produce one one day, but don't hold your breath, nor really expect a much smaller camera when they do, as I suspect they'll keep the EOS mount as is, so the body may not change in size that much, although it would be a little lighter. But I'm just guessing.</p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Canon introduced the 22mp 5DmII over 6 years ago, and only today did it introduce products that exceed that benchmark. So as a formerly loyal FD and EOS user, I am not at all surprised by their marketing savvy. With their duel pixel AF technology, Canon probably could lead the MILC market in AF performance and it also has an enormous built in user base of EF lens owners who would love to use their existing glass on a high end MILC, and would likely buy new lenses for such a system. But that might cannibalize a few sales of the new DRebels introduced today. It appears that Canon rather have competitors eat its lunch than loose DSLR sales to its own MILC system. Good luck guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_dickerson Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 <p>Bob,<br /> You're 100% correct, it is very disappointing that the M3 isn't to be available in the US. Damned if I can figure out what those folks are thinking, but in today's market place it is not a huge problem.<br /> I have the EOS M(1) which I like, in spite of it's well documented short comings, and I ordered the 11-22mm and the 55-200mm lenses from Asia with no problems whatsoever.<br /> Both deals went smoothly, the lenses were well packed and delivery was quick. I've already asked DigitalRev to inform me when the M3 is actually available.<br /> Would I prefer to order from B&H or Adorama, of course. Would I like to have a USA guarantee, definitely! Will those issues cause me to not order the new body...I doubt it!<br /> JD</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 <blockquote> <p>It appears that Canon rather have competitors eat its lunch than loose DSLR sales to its own MILC system.</p> </blockquote> <p>Perhaps, but the very fact that they actually do have a new mirrorless APS-C rather implies that they are actually continuing development of their mirrorless line anyway, just not in the US, because they didn't sell well there compared to the Rebels etc. But they could easily reintroduce them, and anytime they like. </p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 <p>Honest question---- why would I want to "move to" 'mirrorless' when I've been shooting EOS since 1990 (i.e., 1300 straight weeks)?</p> <p>What would "convince" a hardcore, old-school EOS shooter to add mirrorless to his bag?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_clark Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 <p>The fact that you can fit an EOS-M with the 22mm in a pants pocket and have it with you any place you don't want to bother carrying your SLR?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 To convince a hardcore, old-school EOS shooter to buy into a mirrorless system, that person would have to find that the weight and size of their current kit is becoming an encumbrance to their enjoyment of photography. Having a high performance EOS M system (with a built in EVF, fast AF with native lenses, and responsive AF support for EF lenses), would provide an incentive for EOS users to stay with Canon mirrorless. Given their current progress with the M system, I will likely be completely divested of my EOS equipment by the time they get there (assuming they ever get there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 <p>Good answers, definitely appreciated. In looking at Canon's latest mirrorless release it's not all that a good mate with EF lenses? <br> ...Off for 52 hours now to shoot in Mendocino County. Perfect perfect weather here, so cheers!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_merriman1 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 <p>As I said above, there is nothing at this point that would replace my 7DII and 100-400II. But I have been looking for a light compact system to complement that outfit. The 70D I have is a great camera but the size and weight are too close to the 7DII. The SL1 is a very good camera - I have given it to several family members. But the autofocus system (mainly the limited focus points) and non-articulating LCD are negatives for me. I had a Sony RX 100 v1 but the 1" sensor was ultimately too small. I was hoping the EOS M3 was going to fix the negatives of my EOS M1. Then I came across the Sony A6000. 24mb APS-C sensor, very light and compact, very fast phase and contrast autofocus and a number of other great features including a very usable EVF. Add a couple of small light E-mount 1.8 primes and it has become my take anywhere camera.<br> Here are couple of things I was pleasantly surprised about. I shoot in Manual mode 90% of the time. With the A6000 I can be in Manual with Auto ISO and am able to use the Exposure Compensation wheel which affects the ISO. So I can be in Auto ISO with say +1 compensation applied to the ISO. I use it all the time. Very handy. It would be hard to give up this feature.<br> When I use the pop up flash on the A6000 and am in Auto ISO it doesn't default to 400 ISO. It acts more like a fill flash that uses the ambient ISO so the picture isn't all flash exposure. Yes I can manually set a higher ISO when using a flash with the Canon but the Sony does it automatically. <br> This is not to bash Canon. I love most of their gear. But for small, compact, lightweight mirrorless APS-C and full frame cameras I am having to look elsewhere.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariusz calkowski Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I hate that iso 400 in auto iso with flash too. And no EC in M auto iso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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