ken_tuvman Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>The Leica IIIf RD takes amazing pictures - glad I bought it and thanks for your suggestions.<br>I've got a Sekonic L-558R light meter, about the same size as the camera - interested in a suggestion for a compact and inexpensive, yet accurate light meter. <br>When using my Hasselblad, I always use the Sekonic.<br>During my first roll with the Leica, I mostly followed the Sunny 16 rule and had pretty good results. Back in the 70's with my first rangefinder, I believe the only thing I ever carried around was the exposure guide found in a roll of film - still, with the higher cost of film & processing, I'd like to carry a compact light meter as a backup to my judgement.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_bonet Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Sekonic L-208 or Voigtländer VCII meter, I think that are a good options. I have both and I like them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bellayr Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Light meter app on cell phone</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Much as I love my Gossen Luna-Pro, it's huge in the pocket, so I got a Sekonic L-208 as a much smaller meter. There's an even smaller Gossen, but it's higher on the eyestrain scale to use.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosvanEekelen Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Sekonic L-308S. Or if you already have a iPhone one of the Tupperware-like thingies that convert your iPad + App to a simple lightmeter. I have no first hand experience with these but they seem to be adequate.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>I like the Gossen Luna-Pro digital - easy to read and use.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhbebb Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Smallest one I have is a Gossen Digiflash.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsimmons Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Surprisingly, I downloaded the Lightmeter app for Android and iPad/iPhone version and it's not that bad as an incident meter. It's called Lightmeter Free. There's quite a few out there though. Download a bunch and see what works for you. They all seem to use the infrared module on the phone to measure light.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederick_muller Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>The Sekonic L208 is nice, but I'm sold on the L308 because it has both incident and reflected light capability. Pocket sized and a joy to use. The VCII is very good on an M2 or an M4; it's a lot like the semi-spot on my old Canon F-1 because it reads a FOV equivalent to the M4 and M2 90mm frameline.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederick_muller Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Correction ... the L208 has incident capability as well, but ergonomically, the L308 seems like more of an incident meter first and a reflected meter second. Which is why I prefer it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>I agree that incident light capability should be considered essential. Since I always carry my kit in a bag, I have never been put off by a meter's size. In general, the larger meters are more robust.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>I'm a big fan of the Gossen Luna-Pro, but there's no way it can be called "compact".<br /> For a modern meter the Gossen Digi-Six is a smaller meter.</p> <p>For something approaching consistency of period, look at the originals <br /> such as shown here: http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/images/iiif/D3R_2845-leicameter-2-1200.jpg <br> Somewhere, there may be still working or 'rehab'd' ones.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_wheatland Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>My favorite is the Gossen that slips into the cold shoe made for kodak retina cameras. They are available on the eB** auction site. Make sure seller confirms they work.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_boyle3 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>A Weston Master IV would go well with your IIIf. I found one for $2 and had a new selenium cell installed by Quality Light Metric. It's accurate and does not require a battery. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_robison3 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>A gossen Pilot or Pilot2 are nice compact meters with their plastic case and not expensive. The limitation is low light sensitivity but since I shoot hand held when the meter cannot read the the light is too low to shoot hand held. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Sekonic L-308b or VCII -- both excellent for different applications. Love the VCII on my M2.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumpton Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>A small lightmeter is a good companion. My Minolta Spotmeter or Flashmeter IV are seldom used, although they are very good meters for particular occasions, they are just too cumbersome in many cases for Leica photography. Like Stephen, I find the very light and maniable Gossen Luna Pro digital very handy and it just hangs lightly on its neck cord and doesn't bother the photo process. If a reflected only meter is of interest, the little shoe mounted Voigtlander (Cosina) VCII meter is fine, unless you need to have a shoe mounted VF and don't have the double shoe attachment.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_redmann Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 <p>Another vote for the Sekonic L-308 series. I've had one for years. Main downside is it wont spot-meter, but I doubt any really compact meter will.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baisao Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 <p>I'm a huge fan of the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=435535&gclid=CKz0kLK7lr4CFU8Q7AodeikAKQ&Q=&is=REG&A=details">Sekonic L-398A</a>. It is easily fits into a pants pocket, doesn't take batteries, and is durable. Unlike the bubblegum machine bubble plastic of the Sekonic L-208, the L-398A feels like solid Bakelite. There are no gaps in the display for lint to wander into, unlike some meters. Incident, reflective, and a feature for measuring studio light.</p> <p>I like that so much information can be read so easily at a glance. No scrolling through screens to find what you want. Foot candles, DIN, EV, and of course speed/stop info. It's like using a slide rule vs a calculator. Metering becomes more intuitive with these classic meters. </p> <p>Of the three meters I use, even an $$$$$$ one, I would part with the rest before I parted with the L-398A.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_brookes5 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I would recommend a Zeiss Ikophot.- no batteries required - and mine is as accurate now as when I bought it 45 years ago (checked against my M6) Make certain you get one with the diffuser int its slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_bonet Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 <p>Really, I have a Sekonic L-208, (3x) Auto Leader L-38, Gossen Profisix, (2x) Lunasix 3, LunaPro, Sixtino 2, (2x) Weston Master IV, WM V, Polaris, (2x) Voigtländer VCII, Leica Meter MR4, Metraphot... and some more, but I like all!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 <p>Agree with you Jim. I loved my old selenium Weston Masters V and Euromaster for the same reason. I have a fancy Sekonic spotmeter with zoom and hypersensitivity down to some ridiculously low EV. It's really good and expensive, but it's a battery hog and all the lettering is rubbing off after years of hard use.</p> <p>My favorite for the M camera would be the original MR meters (if you can get the batteries) or for the IIIf, the VCII meter. Never ever got on with Gossen, despite their great reputation. I've had two and kept them only a few months each.</p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tuvman Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 <p>Thanks so much - reminds me of a question posed on a motorcycle forum about which oil is best - all great suggestions.<br> If the iPhone app worked, I'd like that cuz I usually carry my phone with me - holding out for the next generation phone so wouldn't have to upgrade the app for awhile - I've seen an attachment that fits on iPhone that looked pretty neat.</p> <p>Will check out options still on the smaller light meters - thank you!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 <blockquote> <p>I like the Gossen Luna-Pro digital - easy to read and use.</p> </blockquote> <p>Another vote for this meter, not to be confused with the original Luna Pro. The digital version is a completely different design, with no protruding dials and a nice, clear LCD display. It's not as tiny as some of the meters mentioned above, but it fits nicely in my hand or pocket (smaller, though thicker, than my smartphone). Gossen have made various versions of this with and without flash metering. The current version (which I haven't tried, but it looks very similar to my 'Sixtomat Flash') is the 'Sixtomat F2' ('Sixtomat' has always been the name outside the US, and is now used everywhere): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1016936-REG/gossen_go_h264a_sixtomat_f2_exposure_meter.html</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baisao Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 <p>Richard, what's the lowest realistic EV for the digital Luna Pro? I can accurately estimate down to EV -4 but it would be nice to have something to give me piece of mind when I am doing this in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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