DB_Gallery Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 At 11:40 Central Standard Time, the last frame of Kodachrome film was shot in Parsons Kansas, one of about 800 shot since the 30th of December, 2010. It is in the soup now and it was shot by yours truly. I am now shooting Tri-x as black and white reversal as Kodachrome comes to an end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>What reversal process are you now using for the Tri-X and at what speed are you shooting it?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_quinn2 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>Do you know how many total rolls they received in the month of December 2010?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>Daniel,</p> <p>I thought the owner of Dwayne's said he would expose and process the last frame.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>Why do we get double posts? Darn</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>It happens it happens. :) :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_rapak Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>Dave,<br /> My guess is that Dwayne and Grant wanted to be in the last frame, so they let Dan expose it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>I can't wait to see it Daniel....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Dwayne ran out of film...;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Since December 26th, they ran 20,564 rolls of 35mm, 3,565 of 8mm and 57,655 feet of 16mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalom_septimus Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>And hopefully one roll of 828.</p> <p>(Yes I know 828 is 35mm.)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>Was 828 ever made in K14?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_f11 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>anyone know when Dwayne's is going to be shipping back these last rolls?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>You did not get yours yet? Hmmmmmm</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 There is still a huge backlog to be mounted, I had to leave Parsons with over 100 rolls still there, you simply have to be patient... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_quinn2 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 <p>"Since December 26th, they ran 20,564 rolls of 35mm"<br> When you consider it took 3 weeks to process this film that is about 1,000 rolls a day. Seems like a lot but consider that this is the peak of the end. It is not as much as I would have hoped. I though that in December they would have gotten a least a full years worth of film in that month alone. After Kodak said Kodachrome was going Bye-Bye they got orders for 50,000 rolls. That along with all of the old rolls still out there I would assume there would be a lot more last minute rolls to be processed. Consider that 20,000 is less than one master roll. Seems like Kodak really did us a favor by keeping Kodachrome around as long as they did. Thank You Kodak.<br /> PLEASE keep some E-6 around. I just ordered a 100 rolls to last me the next two years. I ordered a big batch of slide film to push me to shoot more. I know it is only a roll a week but I hope it will help out. Maybe I will finish it in a year. Let's hope.<br /> PS I really only shoot slide and B&W film. ALMOST NO COLOR PRINT. For prints I shoot digital. So Kodak if you want my dollars PLEASE keep Slide Film around or you will get nothing from me. This is not a threat just a fact.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zack_zoll Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <p>Brian, Kodak's business plan seems to indicate that they are no longer actively pursuing the slide or BW market, aside from the educational market. I say this not because they ditched Kodachrome, but because in the last few years they've reformulated almost their entire professional colour print film line, and redone TMax as well. By comparison, there have been very few changes in the slide and 'non-educational' BW lines. I strongly suspect that over the next few years, Kodak will taper off their slide production, leaving just Ektachrome (or is it Elite now? I forget) 400 for students, and maybe EPP for hobbyists. I seem to recall several of Kodak's BW developers being hard to get last time I tried too.</p> <p>Meanwhile, Fuji has done the opposite; they've redone Velvia, and dropped several reversal films. And then there's Ilford, whom I've always maintained is better than Kodak in every way, aside from Tri-X beating out HP5. But they specialize, so that's to be expected.</p> <p>Maybe it's time to try some new films Brian? Kodachrome developed its sterling reputation (get it?! Because it has silver!) back when other colour films pretty much sucked. Now we have some phenominal choices; even the lowly Fuji Superia Extra 400 is better than some of the old pro films. I've been a shoot-and-scan guy for years and shot Velvia, but if you have a similar workflow you might want to give the new Portra a try. I know it's a reversal film, and I know the reds don't look quite like Kodachrome. But the detail, grain, and tonality are all astonishing. The new Ektar reversal is supposed to be excellent as well and look similar to Kodachrome. I've been told it's great in 120mm and 4x5, but I tried a roll in 35mm and was not pleased with it. The colours (especially the reds) were great, but the dynamic range was lacking. Then again, if you're used to slides ... ;)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredonian Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 My congratulations Dan in making Kodachrome history! I'm left wondering now if perhaps you may have done Kodachrome yet another service in it's history by retaining it within it's 75th year? The published 1935-2010 will most likely be the lifespan that history will use but in my thinking the 75 years of Kodachrome actually took place between 1936-2011. I'm most likely wrong, but in all my years of collecting vintage photographica and motion picture films, I've thus far not encountered any 16mm Kodachrome that indicated sale or processing before 1936. With you now having shot the last roll of Kodachrome that will be processed in K-14 now well into 2011..., I'm now wondering if it's first introductory sale to the public had actually occurred in 1935 or 1936? Does anyone know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickc1 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <p>Charles:</p> <p>I have a roll of 16mm shot by my Grandfather in the UK that is marked use by July 1938 - but I don't know when it would be produced for this to be the best before date. In addition there is a sticker on the original box saying that it is faster than that previously supplied, suggesting that this is the revised system based on controlled re-exposure rather than just on controlled devlopment. To me this suggests that the film, assuming a 6 - 12 month shelf life, might have been made middle to end of 1937, and that the previous version was available in the US prior to that. I don't know the original shelf life of Kodachrome to determine this, or how long the original version was available before the revamp - the books say two years which puts the film's introduction well back into 1935. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_quinn2 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <p>Elite Chrome 400 and EPP are already gone.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <blockquote> <p><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=5657447">Zack Zoll</a> , Jan 19, 2011; 12:39 a.m. Brian, Kodak's business plan seems to indicate that they are no longer actively pursuing the slide or BW market,</p> </blockquote> <p>Really? Odd that they just recently released the new TMY400. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredonian Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Greetings Nick, Forgive me, but it's a genuine joy to read of someone who still retains their family's photographic heirlooms beyond the second generation. I often assist with appraisals in estate sales and too often witness such things being discarded or sold off at the request or hands of the younger beneficiaries. The kodachrome film created by your grandfather is no doubt a genuine family treasure. Have you looked up the date code printed on the film? I myself have "read" where Kodachrome was supposedly first introduced and sold to the public market in 1935, but most of this material was written within the last few decades. The oldest introductory mention of Kodachrome I've been able to find in print was on microfilm in the Los Angelas Times in March of 1936. Another reason I'm skeptical is I have yet to see a 1935 date code on any Kodachrome film. I was hopeing to have finally met the opportunity when I had acquired a large collection of 1930's home movies from an estate in New York, where all the footage had been shot by an avid member of a amature motion picture guild. His dwelling no doubtly indicates that he was from the upper class and he was seemingly eager in trying out the new color film at the first opportunity. His earliest two boxes were 16mm, each for $8.10. They are bothe stamped as being processed at Kodak in March of 1936. Both films were manufactured in the Rochester plant and both films have 1936 edge markings...not 1935. I'm not saying there isn't any 1935 Kodachrome in existance, but I have yet to see it. I'm hopeing someone here can put my skepticism to rest and prove otherwise, but for now I consider the 75 years of Kodachrome's marketed use to actually have occured between 1936-2011, with Mr. Daniel Bayer being it's last user in 2011. Again, I'm likley wrong and I would like for someone to prove me so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._t._burke Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <p>Mr. Watkins....</p> <p>According to a book published by National Geographic about 10-15 years ago, National Geographic photographers got some of the first promotional rolls of Kodachrome and began buying as soon as it was available to the public. I would suspect the National Geographic Society, if they wanted to, could answer your questions. </p> <p>A. T. Burke</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie_strickland Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <p>Well, for whatever it's worth, <a href="http://www.kodak.com/global/en/corp/historyOfKodak/1930.jhtml?pq-path=2700&pq-locale=en_US">Kodak says</a> 16mm Kodachrome was introduced in 1935; with 35mm slides and 8mm movie film following in 1936.</p> <p><a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/photogalleries/kodachrome-color-film-discontinued/">National Geographic says</a> their first Kodachrome 35mm shots were taken in the summer of 1937. This article also states that NG's Luis Marden saw a demonstration of Kodachrome in a Washington, DC camera shop in 1935 -- format not stated.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 <p>Thanks for the Stats on what was processed. I am STUNNED there was that much 16mm Kodachrome proceesed! 16mm K14 has not been available for some time....glad to see (hopefully) my 5 rolls of Super 8 were in there too. I'll keep shooting Kodak Ekatchrome 100D in Super 8 and sending it to Dwayne's! Kodak is doing it's best to support the film community.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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