New text editor for photo.net forums...yes it's WYSIWYG!

[kelly_flanigan1]

Here often I have to relog on to photo.net for comment on a thread ; using Opera 9.61 where java seems to not be installed well. Ofetm one gets a "man of few words" comment when one hits submit; thus one has to write to wordpad ; or loose ones post. In several cases when one hits submit; its gets posted with no preview; then the edit doesnt work. Thus here I am going to have to try some other computers; since the good road feel is now gone.

[joshroot]

<p>Mendel,</p>

<p>Yes, there are reasons for everything we do. We're not fools and we don't just do things for the hell of it. Jin is the best programmer that I have ever worked with. If he says this is how we do something, this is how we do it.</p>

<p>Photo.net's system is old and a little weird. It's nothing at all like the "forum in a box" vB or IPB systems you may use on other sites. This has advantages and disadvantages. The advantage is that we can do anythin we want for the most part. The disadvantage is that there is nothing "off the shelf" that works for us. We have to create almost everything from scratch, and that is always going to cause a few bugs. The photo.net forums have personality and style, they are also a little funky. We are working to add funtionality that users will find useful, but the process isn't always going to be smooth. If that is too much for anyone, I'm sorry, but you are probably going to be happier posting on a different site. Life isn't perfect and god knows photo.net isn't either.</p>

<p>We do our best, but there are always going to be bumps in the road.</p>

[joshroot]

<p>Kelly,</p>

<p>Opera is one of those browsers that gets overlooked until we get everything straightened out with the big three browsers (IE, FF, Safari). There just aren't the critical mass of people using it like there are with the others.</p>

[tomscott]

<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Josh, it would seem that you have the problem with IE7 straightened out. In case you didn't know that  already.</span></strong></p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>"We're not idiots"<br>

Come on Josh, I was definitely <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> saying that: I though my last sentence would have explained. I appreciate this is a trying time...</p>

[joshroot]

<p>Thanks curtis, always glad to have user reports to check on stuff.</p>

<p>Jin posted last night that he thought he had it straightened. Something about IE not likeing javascript to be running on a different server than the page was being served from.</p>

<p>Anyway, it should be working.</p>

[kelly_flanigan1]

Hi Josh; I am redownloading Java to see if things get straightened out. Here I am, not the best speller or typer:) either. In 6th grade in tested in as about 3rd in english and college level in sciences ; thus the old brain has some balance issues. The top total total bombshell of a girl in highschool was to my left in 10th grade typng :) class; she was at machine gun typing speeds while I was looking for each key. It wasnt until I started to use computer "terminals" and hollirith card punch machines that I could really start to type at all!

[bgelfand]

<p>Hi Josh,<br>

I am unable to post using the new editor from my machine running Windows 2000 SP4 with IE 6 SP1, both with the latest security patches applied.<br>

I am posting this message using my Significant Other's machine which is running Vista and IE7. Since I was unable to post to this forum with my machine, I sent you e-mail with the particulars. To summarize, I can enter a subject, but I cannot type in the message body. I get a permission denied error; in my case Line:1 Char:57 Error: Permission Denied Code: 0<br>

I am sure I am not the only person having this difficulty, but it is impossible to tell you of the problem if one cannot post, except by sending e-mail (you probably have a box full). <br>

Thanks.<br>

 </p>

[kelly_flanigan1]

With Win2000; Opera 9.61 and now Java "Sun Java Runtime Environment version 1.6" one can psot if one does a refresh; drops canned already written text into the "old type posting window" and hits submit; BEFORE the new toolbar appears. Once it appears it seems the submit button is off.

[lex_jenkins]

Test post using IE emulation tab within FF 2.x. Not seeing the new WYSIWYG editor... hmm...

[lex_jenkins]

<p>...and back to Zorro del Fuego 2.x...</p>

<p>Odd, from within IE emulation tab the WYSIWYG editor appeared only *after* submitting post, but it wasn't possible to actually use it to edit the post.  The "edit" feature appeared, but no text was apparent to be edited.</p>

<p>Dunno if that's an indication of an IE 6.x bug, or just Firefox's IE emulation feature.</p>

<p>Working fine in normal FF 2.x tabs tho'.</p>

[kelly_flanigan1]

Interesting. - I can post with a blackberry 8330 and its goober browser. But it doesn't work with opera mini

[jsc]

<p>Brooks, please try again in a few minutes. I've extended my earlier MSIE7 fix to cover all versions of IE.</p>

[bgelfand]

<p>Hi Jin,</p>

<p>It works now. Thank you very much.</p>

[bernardwest]

<blockquote>

<p class="poster"><a href="http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=517754"><span style="color: #003399;">Mendel Leisk</span></a> <a href="http://www.photo.net/member-status-icons"><img style="margin: 3px 0px -3px 2px; padding: 0px;" title="Subscriber" src="http://static.photo.net/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub7.gif" alt="" /><img style="margin: 3px 0px -3px 2px; padding: 0px;" title="Frequent poster" src="http://static.photo.net/v3graphics/member-status-icons/3rolls.gif" alt="" /></a>, Dec 06, 2008; 10:15 a.m.<br>

Should this new editor just be turned <span style="text-decoration: underline;">off</span> until the bugs are worked out?</p>

</blockquote>

<p>I agree.  This is poor programming form (I feel I can say this as I am a web programmer myself, and test sites on as many platforms and configurations as possible before releasing it to the public).  If you need any help, I can pitch in.  Cheers.</p>

[derek_hofmann]

<blockquote>

<p>Folks, while I just announced the text editor in this thread, a bunch of stuff went live...It's friday night...</p>

</blockquote>

<p>You guys are some brave, brave people pushing new software to the live server on a Friday!</p>

[astral]

<p>Nice improvements, thanks .... <em>I'm even tempted to renew my subscription.</em> Larger text in the editing box is important to me, especially when applying formatting  AC</p>

[david_henderson]

<p>I'm running IE6 too and have been communicating the same problem via e-mail.  Its fine now. Thanks</p>

[kelly_flanigan1]

<p><span style="font-size: x-small;">

<p>test</p>

</span></p>

[joshroot]

<blockquote>

<p>I agree.  This is poor programming form (I feel I can say this as I am a web programmer myself, and test sites on as many platforms and configurations as possible before releasing it to the public)</p>

</blockquote>

<p>Yeah Bernie, so do we. But you must know, as a web programmer yourself, that there is a world of difference between a test group of users and a couple hundred thousand pounding something at once.</p>

<p>We do our best, but there is no perfection in this world.</p>

[kelly_flanigan1]

<p>Ok another attempt using "theworld browser" : 2.3; version 2.3.2.1 downloaded 20 minutes ago; used on a win2000 box</p>

[kelly_flanigan1]

Hey Bernie; this browser actually works! ie "theworld browser"

[mendel_leisk]

<p>Still pretty much hooped. The following started as a single string, then at confirm/update page I introduced a couple of carriage returns, before and after "jumped over", and then backpaced out one of each pair. Then updated and finally confirmed. Note there's a fair bit missing at the end.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>The quick brown fox<br />jumped over<br />th</p>

[joshroot]

<p>Mendel,</p>

<p>At this juncture, as hundreds and hundreds of posts have been made (and edited) now without a problem by other users, signs point to something in your workflow or computer causing the problems. I encourage you to check to make sure you aren't running anything that would screw with javascript and that you have updated versions of your browsers.</p>

[dave_s]

<p><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Verdana;">Cut Josh some slack, folks--  he'

ll&n bsp;have it sorted out in a day or so, and then we can quit moaning until the ne

xt time . . . &nb

sp;:>D</span><br>

<span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Verdana;">I'm get

ting all sorts of go ofery, like funny fonts, spaces inserted in the middle of words, visible H

TML and so on.  ;

It's more an amusem ent than

anything.</span><br>

<span style="font-size: 9pt; color: black; font-family: Verda

na;">The problem see ms to be when I draft a post, then modify it, and press 'update'.  I'm runnin

g IE7.0, but I'll tr

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