New text editor for photo.net forums...yes it's WYSIWYG!

[joshroot]

<p>Michael,</p>

<p>Jin is working on it. But I can't speak to his timeframe. Thanks for the offer though.<br>

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[ronald_moravec1]

IE 7 and XP will not even let me put a cursor in the box. Safari seems to work fine first try.

 

I enabled the Java Scripting , in fact it already was.

 

I really don`t want to use my Mac for surfing.

[tibz]

<p>Now you don't have to be an HTML genius to make text bold!</p>

[joshroot]

<p>Ronald,<br>

I promise you that this is being worked on. We have no intention of blocking IE7 from the forums (no matter how much I hate it).</p>

[jsc]

<p>IE7 works now. Apparently it doesn't like loading javascript from a different server as the one that's serving up the page. I'm writing this in IE7.</p>

[michaeljlawson]

<p><strong>Now also</strong> working for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">me</span>. <em> Nice work</em> <strong>Jin</strong>!</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>Now IE is working for me also (in the interm I tried FireFox: it was fine). Still one beef: could the font in the composition window be bigger? Say same size as rest of page?<br>

Hey, it's still *half* broke. All the buttons at top dissapeared upon my starting to type this message.</p>

[jsc]

<p>Still tweaking things a little bit. Should be done in about ten minutes. Let me know if you're still seeing problems then. Also, if things aren't working properly please try holding down the Shift key and clicking the button.<br /></p>

[michaeljlawson]

<p>I do not experience the "Dissapearing" buttons.  The "Insert\edit Link" button goes grey until I select text as noted above, but no vanishing happening here.</p>

[bernardwest]

<p>This is a disaster at my end.  see this thread <a href="http://www.photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00Rb8S">http://www.photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00Rb8S</a> to see the results of my posts.  In summary, the update button produces random text changes and spaces, and then the text in the update panel at the bottom is truncated.  Also significantly slowing the page scrolling and mouse operations on the page.  I'm using windows IE7 and have NoFlash installed which blocks flash from running.</p>

[garrison_k.]

<p><span style="font-weight: bold;">Google</span> <span style="font-style: italic;">Chrome<span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal;"> on Black XP</span></span></p>

[michaeljlawson]

<p>Bernie, I noticed some oddities when I did my first update to a post with IE7 too.  I closed IE7, emptied my temp files, and reopended IE and have been fine since.  Hopefully that simple fix will work for you too.  IE7 is touchy about cached files.</p>

[joshroot]

<p>Bernie,</p>

<p>I think that is just a glitch from the previous IE7 issue and it being resolved. Others are posting fine so unless this pops up again, I'm going to say it was a glitch.</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>The buttons <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>are</strong></span> working now, not disappearing ;)<br />Still would be nice if the text were a bit bigger.<br />Something else odd, at least when composing: each carriage return <span style="text-decoration: underline;">looks</span> like a double return. Maybe that's by design, per the photo.net policy of converting single carriage return to double?</p>

<p>Edit:</p>

<p>I really like the post-posting <strong>Edit</strong> feature. How long does that apply, ie: 10 minutes, half hour?<Ok, see the answer above.</p>

<p>Also, nice to see <strong>Confirm</strong> and <strong>Update</strong> buttons side-by-side.</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>One odd thing: If I edit my response and click return to thread, I see <span style="text-decoration: underline;">only</span> my response. F5 doesn't help. Re-entering the thread does fix it.</p>

[joshroot]

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<p>If I edit my response and click return to thread, I see <span style="text-decoration: underline;">only</span> my response.</p>

</blockquote>

<p>Another glitch. I'm aware of it, but it's not a "has to be done friday night" type of thing.</p>

[joshroot]

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<p>Something else odd, at least when composing: each carriage return <span style="text-decoration: underline;">looks</span> like a double return.</p>

</blockquote>

<p>One of my goals when doing this was that we get it set up so that there were both single and double [CR] abilities. So far this is the best we have been able to do. It works, but looks weird when typing. We may have to live with it.</p>

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<p>Still would be nice if the text were a bit bigger.</p>

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<p>I'm hoping to get this fixed in short order.</p>

[tonmestrom]

<p>great stuff. <strong>Thanks</strong></p>

[hjoseph7]

<p>I appreciate the help</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>Josh, please don't feel a need to respond to all my observations: just trying to give feedback, beta test. The single carriage return "behaving" <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is</span> nice, cuts the length of lists in half ;)<br>

Again, in the catagory of things you likely already know about: "nsert image" isn't working.</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>Should this new editor just be turned <span style="text-decoration: underline;">off</span> until the bugs are worked out? Here's what my attempted output to another thread looked like after about 3 edits, in another thread. I just gave up and did not post it. Note, there <span style="text-decoration: underline;">were</span> words beyond the truncated end, and there weren't <span style="text-decoration: underline;">gaps</span> in the words. I don't think this editor is anywhere near ready:</p>

<p>Robert,<br />&n bsp; The more specific you can get about what's wrong, the more helpful answers wil l be. <br />& n bsp;What in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">particular</span> is different with th is film ? Is there a color c ast? And if so, which direction is it off? Are the results too dark? Too light? What settings are you using? Have you tr ied alte rnate software?<br>

< p>&n bsp;Al so, post some examples: scans you <span>are</span> ha p p y wi t h, vs this pro blem roll. < /p><br>

Do loo k into Vues can, i f j us t t o see what another approach yields.< /p><br>

 B T W, I hav e <span>one roll of color negative film that is giving me fits , same scanner being used. My raw scans from this one are severly underexposed, for some reason, and outp ut i mages are coming out too green/blue, and f lat looking . I 'm using Super Advanced Wor</span></p>

[joshroot]

<p>Mendel, what thread was that. It looks like you switched it back to plain text from HTML when editing.</p>

[JDMvW]

<p>Here is a <em>test</em> on my Intel Mac, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">running</span> same system and OS as the G4 laptop.<br /> <img src="../photo/8284700" alt="my new car" /></p>

<p>Hmm, my link to a picture doesn't seem to work. Otherwise all ok.</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>This thread:<br>

<a href="http://www.photo.net/digital-darkroom-forum/00RiIH?unified_p=1">http://www.photo.net/digital-darkroom-forum/00RiIH?unified_p=1</a><br>

I didn't post it. Also, I didn't <span style="text-decoration: underline;">intentially</span> switch modes, but I agree: it looks like that's what's happening.<br>

I pushed the <strong>Submit</strong> button, then reviewed, editted and pushed the <strong>Update</strong> button, several times. I believe this is a factor.<br>

In between <strong>Updates</strong> I went from single carriage returns, to double, and then back to single. That alone seemed to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">really</span> mess it up. Each <strong>Update</strong> created an increasingly "mushed" result. There <span style="text-decoration: underline;">was</span> text beyond what-you-see. I think the editor got confused as to the number of characters that were in the thread, and chopped of the end.<br>

The displaced spaces and chop-off of the end of my posting seems to be aggravated by a breaking-up of wrap when using the <strong>Update</strong> button. This is something I noted in an earlier post I started. Each time you <strong>Update</strong> the wrap appears more messed up in the edit window.<br>

Maybe shut this thing down, till it's debugged a bit better?</p>

[mendel_leisk]

<p>A question that's on my mind:<br>

Why can these guys (for example), make it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">so</span> easy:<br>

<a href="http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/index.php">http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/index.php</a><br>

Since so many sites have the same, or similar, posting format to the above, I would assume this is off-the-shelf software at work, widely available, debugged and bullet-proof.<br>

I would further assume there is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">some</span> reason photo.net does not simply go to something like this, some legacy reason. Am I right on that?</p>