evangelos_koutsavdis Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 It looks like Nikon has done an excellent job with D3 and Canon does not have anything in the horizon that is similar. What do you thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielleetaylor Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I could be wrong, but I think this is an attempt at trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve torelli Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I think you're a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Not really, there is no 16 MP and no 21 MP cameras in Nikon line. Also lens selection from Nikon is much to desire. But like the old popular saying: "Sooner or later you will get Nikon"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve torelli Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 And, if you're not trolling, Nikon does an excellent job on a lot of things. So what ? Are you gonna change systems with each new camera ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 YES ! But not for $5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhite3.0 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Nah, I respect Nikon, but the D3 isn't a major or any leap above the MKIII. However, I am tempted to get the smaller D300 to compliment my MKIII as a more travel light camera and to utilize some of Nikon's strengths. Also, most of us do not know what Canon has on the horizon so don't count out Canon as coming up with a 1D MKIII full-frame. However, most sports shooters don't want a full frame camera anyway so to compete with the Nikon D3 we'd need a FF and EF-S Canon dSLR all in one. What do I know? I like to use both systems, don't limit yourself to one system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_sauer Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 No, but I'm glad they are finally coming around to FF. In the years to come, this will lead to more competition, better cameras, and lower prices all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot1 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I put in an order for the D3 when it was announced. I bought the 5D specifically for an event I am shooting this weekend as my Nikon D80 does not do a good job on. I shot a wedding with the 5D last weekend. The image quality of the 5D is superb and I doubt that the D3 will be that much better, if at all. Granted it does not have a lot of extra features but the only feature I really want it great pictures, and the 5D delivers them to me. I plan to make my final decision on Sunday after the Saturday PM shoot but so far the 5D has done nothing but impress me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinca Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I would get one if they come out with a D300 size (body, not sensor) at 21MP FF and still charge $5000. Disclaimer: before Canon comes out with one like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Wall Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Evangelos - Are you still using just the film EOS 7E? Have you tried digital yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsantes Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Nikon does seem to be pulling away from canon these days. Canon needs to wake up and pick up the pace a little. Flash system and AF on there new 40d has not changed since the 20d. Nikons D200 is still better than the "ALL NEW" 40d. Canon WAKE UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmond_kidman Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Canon was there first and still have a higher resolution sensor. I own the Canon lens line, and Canon has a huge advantage in their tilt shift series of lenses at 3 nicely spaced focal lengths. I would not switch if it were 21mp at $5k. Now, 25 mp, greater high iso permance, maybe. Jumping equipment, though, even with that non-existent model, probably would not make sense. Unless there are CLEAR performance differences it's the Indian, not the arrow, that makes the difference. What really amuses me is set of hundreds of posts over the years claiming that smaller sensors were better, that Nikon did not want to do larger sensors, and smaller sensors would be the future. How blindly loyal to accept this excuse rather than the simple fact that they could not do it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmichaelc Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 No. What does excite me however is the thought of "What is canon, as they always do, going to do next to exceed by leaps and bounds the capabilities of the D3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhut-nguyen Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 "What really amuses me is set of hundreds of posts over the years claiming that smaller sensors were better, that Nikon did not want to do larger sensors, and smaller sensors would be the future. How blindly loyal to accept this excuse rather than the simple fact that they could not do it before." Amen to that Armando! If Nikon had been able to make FF sensor they would have made it 6 years ago. The 11 mpx FF EOS 1 Ds was marketed in November 2002! I'm glad Nikon makes FF now, hopefully that will drive down the prices of FF cameras. It's good for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anson_ko Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Frank Skomial, Nov 15, 2007; 10:05 a.m. Not really, there is no 16 MP and no 21 MP cameras in Nikon line. Also lens selection from Nikon is much to desire. ditto. AF lenses selection is important to me. I dont' care about MF lenses so old MF lenses is not in my consideration. People already invested heavily in canon will less likely to switch just because nikon has the first FF camera. Not justify for the advantage gain. I think the new D3 sensors are made by SONY. If SONY comes up it's own FF camera, that will have a huge impact on Nikon sale. good luck to nikon users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave92029 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 The question would be much more interesting if my Canon lens would fit on a Nikon body and Nikon lens fit Canon bodies. Then we, the consumer would be able to choose the most suitable body to use for our photographic needs. The way things are today I have too much invested in Canon glass to even consider Nikon, even if I do feel that Nikon's recent releases are superior to Canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Of course not. None of my lenses would work. I own a 1Ds Mark II which has higher resolution anyway... and it's a few years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 First of all, nice troll post E.K. Else, a very ignorant question. 2ndly, of course not, how foolish would one have to be (unless your money grows on trees) with an excellent investment in Canon EOS to "jump ship" because of the D3? OK, next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester_wareham Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 As noted possibly a troll, so Nikon has now achieved what Canon did some years ago. Is that any reason to switch when its lenses the set IQ and the photog that makes the picture....? ... I didn't think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinsouthern Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 For sports photography the 1D3 is by far the better beast (compared to the D3) (it doesn't have the disadvantage of being FF for a start) - for Studio photography the 1Ds3 is by far the better beast - so what does the D3 offer me? - nothing. In my opinion all the D3 does is try to compete against the 5D, but at twice the price. Canon - you're doing just fine - keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martijn_houtman Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 <p> Troll or not, I don't really care, the original poster just has a fair question regarding high iso performance. And I think for some, it might just be reason enough to make a switch. We're not talking about a small margin here; the D3 makes photos at iso 6400 that for instance the 5D makes at 1600, as far as I can judge from the examples I've seen (the ones on Ken Rockwell's site). There's a big price difference though, but we'll see how large the difference will be with the 5D mkII ... </p> <p> The real question here, I think, is that how important is high iso performance to you? Ofcourse it sounds stupid to make a switch when you have lots of Canon gear already, but what if you're the kind of photographer that has to take good photos in low light without strobing people blind with flash? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stb Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 What does Nikon do that would replace my 24 and 45 TS-E? Stephane http://lumieredargent.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 "...the original poster just has a fair question regarding high iso performance..." You are simply making that up -- the OP asked/said nothing to that effect. I am not arguing who is better at high ISO -- the *old* 5D or the brand new, fresh Nikon D3. I really do not care as the 5D and it successor (certainly will) is _perfectly fine_ (better than film ever was) at high ISO. I have nothing against Nikon; I actually admire them, and as I've posted in the past, N v. C is good for both camps, long live N! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdanmitchell Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 The Nikon D3 looks like a stunning competitor to the Canon 1DMKIII. (Not the 1Ds series or the 5D for reasons I won't go into here.) I have no doubt that it is a great camera in many ways. It wouldn't induce me to switch from Canon though - for a bunch of reasons. I'm a 5D shooter and the D3 costs about twice the current cost of a 5D. While it has some additional features, they are not very important for the type of shooting I do. In addition, the cost of my lenses must be taken into consideration. Finally, "jumping ship" on the basis of one manufacturer or the others newest camera being really cool is a bad strategy on a long term basis. I'm very glad to see more effective competition coming from Nikon in the FF space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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