Why isn't there a true digital Minox?

Discussion in 'Minox' started by Troll, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. For nearly 50 years I always carried a Minox in my pants pocket; first a IIIS, then a C, and finally an LX, until getting film and decent processing became difficult. Eventually 35mm cameras came down to a size and weight so I switched; first a Minox 35, (unfortunately unreliable), then an Olympus XA. Finally, nearly 20 years ago I went digital with Minolta and now with a choice of SONY (T100 is my current baby/RX100 in its various iterations is too big and heavy for my pockets, and also too obvious to use when I don't want to be noticed).
    Although I have a freezer full of Minox 9.5mm films in various speeds, I gotta admit that I'd really like a true digital IIIS or LX. It doesn't even need a digital view screen -- the bright-line finder is just fine for me.
    I'd even settle for commercial processing with high quality reasonable cost scans.
    Guess it's all wishful thinking -- BUT if I should hit the lottery....!
     
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  2. There are digitals with tiny sensors like the Pentax Q. Those are kind of equivalent to the subminiature format. For full frame tiny cameras, the closest we have is something like the Sony RX100s (and its competitors) which you have. I guess film is just a bit more compact. Maybe you just need slightly bigger pockets (a change in wardrobe?).;) And there is always your phone. I haven't tried them, but there are clip on lenses for phones, I just think they are still somewhat awkward to use.
     
  3. I guess the answer is easy: "(No) money"?
    • The original (pre EC) small Minoxes weren't cheap at all.
    • Customers were way(!) less feature spoiled by bigger cameras of that era.
    • R&D etc were split over 3 shoulders: Minox made camera, somebody else film and paper and a 3rd party had to do the darkroom magic.
    With digital you need a decent image processing unit inside the camera to sell. The regular Minox "mass"-market (happy snapping upper class people unwilling to be bothered with a bigger camera) got already catered by others and became harder to compete with. - I assume digital point and wait cameras had automatically retracting lenses and AF because it is cheaper to put tiny motors and plastic gears together than to machine something that would withstand a human operator's surplus strength.
    So who would have been left, to buy digital Minox?
    The average shutterbug: "sorry poor people like me can't afford overspending on crap".
    The average camera afficinado faced the challenge to save up for significantly greater later models rapidly.
    Minox' own move into the digital world wasn't entirely stupid. - Their classic camera miniatures looked at least cute. That way they attracted their heritage customer group of wealthy happy snappers.
    The rest is sad history. - Maybe I would have bought a miniature M3 if it had been a wee bit closer to the real thing with interchangeable lenses and at least zone focusing.

    The only "camera" offering zone focusing I encountered came in my Nokia N80 but seemed too crappy to shoot. With most people carrying smart phones nowadays the digital real Minox time window is gone. Who could afford to enjoy it and carry no phone?
     
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  5. The ancient 2mp Sony Cyber-shot dsc-u20 reminds me of a subminiature in size and styling.
    Unfortunately, finding one that actually still works seems unlikely.
     
  6. Yep, not enough market to sell a lot of them so the price will be affordable for us ordinary folks. And, seems like most folks get along fine with the cameras in their phone, something most of them always have on their person.
    Interesting idea though, and Minox even tried it out in 2008 with the Minox DCS 5Mp camera with a form factor similar to the classic 9.2mm 8X11 film cameras. There was also a flash attachment that had a screen to preview shots. That camera is all but forgotten today, a decade later.
     
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  7. ph.

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    And if the Complan had been kept, there would have been complaints about its depth of field and questions about why it was not f 1,4 with a longer measuring chain fit for portraits.

    p.
     
  8. Certainly there is a digital Minox,
    It is called MINOX DSC , there are two version
    a black Minox DSC with 3M sensor, and a MINOX DSC
    SILVER WITH 5m sensor

    Minox DSC silver

    Minox DSC
     
  9. [​IMG]

    The black Minox DSC is 3M
    The Minox DSC silver is 5M
     
  10. There is also a digital Minox Rolleiflex with 3M sensor
     
  11. digital Minox DCC 14MB is still available from Minox GmbH

    MINOX: Description DCC 14.0.

    It does not look like a classical Minox camera

    It models after a Leica M3 camera

    I have one too.

    lt uses micro SD card for color image storage
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2018
  12. Humm. My Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX07 has a 5.744 x 4.308 mm size sensor and yields 7MP. Minox negatives are 8x11mm. I've gotten great 11x14 prints from my Lumix. We still use it all the time.
     
  13. Lumix DMC-FX07 dimension too big, not belongs to subminiature camera
     
  14. The silver black Minox DSC has 5 MEGA PIXEL PICTURE FRAME

    The silver Minox DSC has 14 mega pixel picture frame
     
  15. Blame Leica. Sony approached then in 1998 asking to license the Minox technology for a new digital camera. Leica being Leica said no, then sold off the Minox brand once the digital ship had sailed and the analogue ship had foundered. The true 8x11mm 'digital Minox' was the Contax i4. Not for nothing was it so small.
     
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    The silver color digital Minox is my day to day
    Minox camera
     

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