nicholas_rapak Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>From Scott Sheppard of Inside Analog Photo, via APUG:</p> <blockquote> <p> I have had face to face meeting with Fujifilm this week and this is the deal.<br /><br />160s, 160c, 800z and T64 in "ALL SIZES" also Neopan 400 in 120 - GONE...<br /><br />With the possibility of some more (chrome)</p> </blockquote> <p>...leaving only 400H in the "pro" field.<br> This is a collective shot to the gut, as most thought Fuji was going to outlast Kodak in the film market. A wholesale axing like this does not bode well for the future, as this is an indicator of serious sector trouble. <br> This leaves:</p> <ul> <li><strong>No</strong> C-41 sheet film made by Fuji</li> <li>Only Neopan 100 in MF B&W</li> <li>Only 400H in C-41 MF</li> </ul> <p>So much for "Last Man Standing!"</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny_spinoza Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>Perhaps it is mainly Hollywood that is keeping negative film viable for Kodak? I don't believe Fuji has that advantage of scale. Hooray for Hollywood!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>So far this is just a rumor...let's wait and see. I'd be surprised to see all of these films gone. 64T and 800z have been on the chopping block for years. Don't use them much at all.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_aellis1 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>Nick: How about a link to that apug forum. I'm a member there and I can't find it.<br> Thx</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>What about Reala?</p> <p>If this is indeed true, then I'll stop using Fuji altogther and move to Kodak. What a slap in the face!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim gray Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>Personally, I didn't think Fuji would outlast Kodak. A lot of people complain about Kodak, but they have been restructuring their film line up to try to keep the rest alive. Trimming the fat if you will. Unfortunately, I liked some of that fat, but that's how it goes.</p> <p>Here's the link:<br> <a href="http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/73536-interesting-news-about-fujicolor-pro-6.html#post959885">APUG</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>Fuji 400H has been my mainstay after moving a lot of my color work back to film recently. At least that film is staying....for now. It appears there is a Reala / Pro 160S replacement in the works to go up against the new Ektar emulsion.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim gray Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>Where did you hear that?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>Scott Sheppard at Inside Analog Photography Radio meet with Fuji Reps on the issue. Check out the APUG link above.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>With all these "must buy cancelled film now!" crises my freezer's getting pretty full.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>800z was mentioned back in July 2009 to stopped being made in Sept 2009</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>in Dec 2009 Fuji (Russ Gunn) said in a press release that Fuji Quickloads would stop being made in April 2010; due to "sales has dropped off to such an extent that they are simply not viable products"; that is a E6 chrome sheet film that is in a quick load pack, Sheet film in E6 is to continue; by the packaging is to be 20 sheets instead of 10.<br> <br /> This whole decline of films is just like what process camera users went through 15 years ago; products got dropped as usage contacted.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>The real shot in the gut for me is Neopan 400 in 120. I really like that film. Don't really care much about the color stuff.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin_polk Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>I can (sadly) confirm this. I went to Glazer's yesterday, and they had the email posted directly from Fujifilm stating this discontinuance. They are also discontinuing most slide films in single 120 rolls and 10 sheet boxes, and moving to 20 sheet boxes (for both 4x5 and 8x10), and 5 roll pro packs. I was told that they had been selling far more of the Portra line for 160 iso than the Fuji stuff, so they weren't surprised about that, although they didn't expect the rest of the lineup to go.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>This is really disturbing. I too thought that Fuji would be last man standing. Thank goodness Kodak is expanding Ektar to sheet films. I believe you can add Acros in 4x5 as still available, unless I've missed something. I've been reeling from quickloads being dropped.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>I suspect it shows Kodak's success in offering two improved generations of Portra films in the last three years. Fuji's only change was the names. It's a cut-throat business.<br> I wonder if the end-game will be Fuji in E-6 and Kodak in C-41?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_himmelright Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>fuji being the last one standing in e-6 doesn't mean much, e-6 lines are dropping like flies in developer........they should be concentrating on their c-41 business IMHO to keep feeding to their frontiers and film processors.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert lee Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 <p>So sad. </p> <p>I'm sorry to see Neopan 400 go. I can't imagine the movie industry is a major user of traditional B&W film, so the hobbyist segment probably weighed in significantly on the popularity of this emulsion. And ya know, Kodak TMY2 really is the better product. So right, cut throat business.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>The Global economy sure isn't helping matters either. Too bad. I hope ACROS 100 sticks around. I liked Fujicolor 160S. But the Kodak Portra Films are really good, and they've got better market saturation in North America.<br> It's a shame about Neopan 400, but with Tri-X, TMY2,and Ilford HP-5+ and Delta 400 around I that market was really overdone. A bigger question is what will happen to their amateur print film market. That's stilll where most new students and people interested in film get started. Looks like a bad summer ahead for film shooters. Probably better to switch now to something in production and put your money on a live horse. Dead ones don't win races....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_littleboy__tokyo__ja Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>None of the Fuji pro 120 films have been discontinued in Japan, at least according to their web site as of today. That includes Neopan 400, 100 (Acros), the Velvias, Pro160NC and Pro160NS (my undestanding is that these are upgrded versions of 160c and 160s). I can't speak for sheet or 35mm sizes, though.<br> I suspect that your distributor/dealers just don't want to carry them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_arva_toth Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>Fujifilm has just issued a press release on the discontinuance of three film products:<br> http://www.photographyblog.com/news/fujifilm_retires_three_films/</p> <p>This is official. There is no mention of 160C being discontinued. As regards T64, it was dropped a year ago. There was talk of the withdrawal of 800z last year, but then they re-thought it, and the newest press release does not talk about that emulsion at all. The affected films are Neopan 400 120, Superia Reala 135 and 160s 135.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_newton Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>Wait, Reala is gone? I was under the impression that they were redesigning it.<br> I am seriously bummed now. I use 400H a fair amount as well as Reala. I guess it is time to stock up on the Reala. I am almost through my stock that I picked up about 2 years ago.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_schoof1 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>"The remaining films in the Pro 160S range are to be re-branded as Pro 160NS, to fall in line with a global name change. The film itself remains unaltered."</p> <p>What does this mean? The non-35mm formats of 160S will continue as 160NS?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_arva_toth Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>Yes.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 <p>WTF. Reala 135??? To hell with them, I'll use Ektar and Portra instead. But I'll keep using Superia.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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