...Has Anyone seen this yet! Digifilm!!

Discussion in 'Classic Manual Cameras' started by chuck_foreman|1, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. The Yashica camera in question is not what I call 'fun'. But hey, horses for courses.

    The sensor could slide in and out, as mwmcbroom suggested - which would add to the cost of the module. You could also make different modules for different cameras. Or, as John Robison said, you could have a relatively compact back, possibly with a short base extension.

    As for resetting and activating the sensor module, medium format cameras used a PC cable. I think a similar arrangement would work with 35mm cameras. Most 35mm cameras have first-curtain sync by default - not great for flash photos but great for triggering a digital sensor.
     
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  2. James G. Dainis

    James G. Dainis Moderator

    "And how do you want to transfer the advance mechanism to the cartridge and tell it that there will be a new pic?"

    The same way my dslr, which doesn't have an advance lever, knows there is a new pic, electronically. The advance lever would be used to cock the shutter. Back in the late 1990's when this was first claimed to be in the works, it would have been a valuable idea. Digital cameras were only about 4-6 MB of resolution, and many people, including pros, had lots of money invested in expensive film cameras and lenses. It would have been great if all they had to do was drop in one of these digital cartridges instead of a film cartridge.

    A lot of electronics can now be crammed into a small space. Cell phones can take good photos as well as all that other stuff that they do.
     
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  3. Well, I seem to be the only one here to see the fun side of this. That's not too surprising, considering this is one of the last bastions of film lovers. Personally, I don't take it very seriously, but I love that someone is doing it, and I want to encourage such silly/outrageous ventures because who knows what may spin off from this? There really aren't any technological hurdles remaining to prevent someone from actually producing an insert that could be used in most 35mm cameras. The technology exists. It's the market that's lacking, and this venture could pump up that market.

    Sure, this thing is probably a toy, but I've spent a lot more on toys that were a lot less useful. Or fun. I don't expect it to replace either my Canon DSLRs or my film cameras. But, I've spent more on used cameras than this whole kit will cost me (it's only a pledge, so far), and I can't buy a battery grip for my DSLR for the same price. To me, this will define its own category, if they actually produce it, sort of like the Holga defined the "lomography" category for 120 and the Diana for 35mm as something different from "regular" photography. And I'm happy to see the Yashica name back in circulation, even if it's not the same company.

    At worst, it will be an interesting collectible in 20 years.
     
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  4. Pass the bong...
     
  5. Damn, Watson. You're still annoyed that you didn't win that Chupa-Chup. Still, I'd be happy to send you a signed advance copy of my new single, I'm Dreaming of a Mauve Christmas (the B-side is Mauvin' in on You), which is due to hit retailers worldwide in November.
     
  6. Where will they find the 256 Megabyte SD cards that only hold 36 pictures these days?

    This idea is about as sensible as the Sony Mavica that used floppy disks for storage.

    Fun to use a clumsy retro camera with no internet connectivity? Tell that to the millions of youngsters welded to their smartphones.
     
  7. Joe, they won't need the 256 cards. . .Everything will be up-loaded to the smart phone (which by the way have cameras that MIGHT surpass this "thing") that will be required to make the thing work. . saved by the techno freaks at Apple & Samsung.. . I'm with Watson. . where's the Vaper??. . & I have a valid medical MJ card.
     
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  8. What about this "thing" being hacked ???
     
  9. No money there, old film bodies mostly gone now.
     
  10. According to the Feb. issue of Digital Imaging Reporter, the Yashica Y35 digiFilm camera ships in April. It has 35mm f2 4G lens and accepts cartridges (looking like shortened APS) that set camera for ISO 1600, 400, or 200. Price wasn't announced.
     
  11. ".... the Yashica Y35 digiFilmcamera ships in April."

    - April the 1st by any chance?
    How appropriate!
     
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  12. Doesn't matter to me if it ships or not as I don't want one. IMHO, Yashica should have brought back an updated GSN or at least an MG-1. Or better yet, a Lynx. But I suppose it would be difficult to build any of those at a profit.
     
  13. (snip)

    Until the price of full-frame sensors comes down, it is complicated by the need for an appropriate viewfinder.

    Even more, though, by the time that the price of sensors does come down, the 35mm cameras that you might want to use it with will be so old, that people won't want to use them that way.

    There might be a small number of people that have a need to switch between film and digital, and also where the weight of two cameras matters. (Backpackers, maybe.)

    For most, having two cameras with the same lens mount makes more sense.

    I have used Nikon DSLRs and film SLRs on the same trip, while sharing lenses.
     
  14. Yes it would be fun, but I don't expect that it will be within my fun price range.

    I can buy $10 film SLRs. (The Canon FT for example.) Nikon 35mm SLRs that can share lenses with DSLRs, and especially with the price of used FX cameras coming down, it makes much more sense to buy two cameras.

    If there was enough demand for real economy of scale production, it might be affordable.

    Reminds me of the Holga digital:

    Holga - Holga Digital is a new generation Holga, that bring the old good toy camera back to the present

    after the film Holga was discontinued, we now have a digital version of a toy camera.

    Maybe it is affordably priced, though more than I would normally pay for a toy.
     
  15. Now why we are here? because we are being hacked and drawn into unknown digitized depths. Stay free, shoot film :)
     
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  16. Really? I haven't seen an SLR offered for less than $40, recently, even at Goodwill.
     
  17. My local Goodwill has both eBay and shopgoodwill auctions.

    #24 Canon FTb FD mount 35mm SLR *body only* -tested/working- | eBay

    is a recently sold for $10 FTb

    #5 Nikon N75 35mm SLR *body only* -tested/working- 18208017225 | eBay

    is a Nikon N75 that recently sold for $10.

    Those are body only. You can get lenses for close to $10, too.

    Save on shipping by bidding on items at your local goodwill store, and picking them up.

    I got a Nikkor 80-200 AI zoom for $12 from the same Goodwill store.

    Bid low and often, and you will get way too much stuff.
    (The local store to me usually has $10 starting bid. Others are less.)

    I think I bid about $40 for this one:

    #18 Canon 7 LTM 35mm Rangefinder w/ 50mm f/1.4 lens *read description* | eBay

    which is a Canon 7 with 50/1.4 lens. But $153 isn't a bad price.

    There are also some that sold for way more than I would expect.
     
  18. SCL

    SCL

    You just need to broaden your search on Ebay, perhaps for less well known SLR brands. Konica and Yashica come to mind. My local Goodwill and Salvation Army no longer sells SLR cameras, but rather ships them to some central facility for online listings (my best charity buy was a perfect Nikon EM with a 50 E lens...all it needed was a battery - $8).
     
  19. Yes, the Minolta, Konica, and such are often lower priced, but the

    Canon FTb and Nikkormat FTN or FT2 are also not hard to find in the $10 range.

    Also, many of the more recent cameras from Canon and Nikon, such as
    the Canon EOS series or Nikon N65, N75, or N80 are also often low priced.

    In Seattle, one store does all the auction items, as I also suspect is true in
    other cities.
     
  20. Yeah, I check shopgoodwill from time to time, but it seems that A) they're getting greedy, with some items starting at a price that's the typical eBay selling price, and B) people often go nuts, there, bidding items up way beyond what they would pay to buy the same item on eBay. But, I suppose one can still find the occasional bargain there.

    My local Goodwills don't do online auctions, though, so the "buy online, pickup in person" approach doesn't work. Apparently, the person/people in charge of the Phoenix Metro area don't like the idea, and they're not required to participate. I've seen some listings on Shopgoodwill from Tucson, but that's only local in the broadest sense. When I lived in Boston, New Hampshire and Rhode Island were both closer than Tucson is to Phoenix.
     

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