andrew_spence1 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p><img id="viEnlargeImgLayer_img_ctr" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYxNQ==/z/KhoAAOSweW5U~afg/$_57.JPG" alt="" />g<br> <img id="viEnlargeImgLayer_img_ctr" src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjgyWDgwMA==/z/09cAAOSwBLlU~afl/$_57.JPG" alt="" /><br /> guys how would this camera have got in this state all I know is that it was found in an attic of an old house in Latvia any of you have any theories<br /> regards Andrew</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>My theory is that it was "cleaned" by somebody and 'loosened up' with WD-40. ;)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deary Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>Casualty of WW II(?) </p> Dan Deary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_spence1 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>guys<br /> don't tell me not to buy it<br /> I bought it for £40 I thought it was worth it just for the look alone,<br /> the seller says the shutter and apertures work I will do a minimal restoration on this<br /> as I want to keep the "look" of it im not sure how far ill go on its looks but I want it to work and take pictures with<br /> a friend of mine says the only way he thinks it got to Latvia was via a german soldier<br /> this will be an interesting fix up job<br> the thing is it looks like its been banged about a lot but the focusing screen is intact<br /> would any of you have taken this on<br /> regards Andrew</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwmcbroom Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>As long as it's light tight and the shutter fires, it should work just fine, methinks. kinda cool looking, really. a real conversation starter.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 It could be in much worse shape: http://www.japanartsandcrafts.com/ichinosetaizo1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller5 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Where's the case for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_lockerbie Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>Wow, that is some serious patina...looks really cool!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 USPS. Most of what arrives in my state in that state was shipped USPS 50 years ago and spent half a century in the dead letter office, aka some mailman's flooded basement, before being discovered by an eBay estate vulture and listed as "minty". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_the_waste Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>What state are you in?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_wheatland Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>A friend showed me a Yashica SLR with a normal lens that was left in a cook stove oven for safekeeping while the owners were away. Upon return they cooked a roast for supper. The camera looked like it had been roasted also. Surprisingly it still fired(no pun intended) but optics and all controls were cooked beyond use. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS1664879711 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 State of confusion ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller5 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>I discussing this with my wife who just just came back from Latvia setting up a program for the Department of Defense and is originally from Moscow. Couple of questions, what part of Latvia did this camera come from? Some areas are predominately German and there are other areas that have Russian majority. From the serial number on the lens this camera was made in 1932. Our thoughts are that it was probably owned by a German soldier and was separated from him and found later after it was in the ground for many years.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_Meluso Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>Looks like a fire and then water damage. Just a guess.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Helmke Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>I like it. It has character.</p> <p>Rick H.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller5 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 <p>In addition to its character, one can only speculate on its odyssey,</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_g1 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 <p>I would say dropped in a river, but then I imagine it would be full of rust too. I remember an article about a Zorki 6 that was found in a lake 30 years after it had been dropped - and it looked in better shape than that though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 <p>I agree with Louis. Fire is the main culprit.</p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_reichert1 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ask Lenny Kravitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j._drake Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 <p>Hello all, just joined PN been watching it for years. I bought an Ikoflex at a flea market a few years ago for 2 dollars. It didn't look as bad as this one on the outside but it had 1/10 inch of dead mold where the film rolls sat. It actually worked sort of. The backside of the viewing mirror had 15 9 50 in pencil written on it. A few years earlier at another flea market I purchased a FirstFlex tlr, it had been artified by a coating of brown paste? on the entire front of the camera, including the lens. I cleaned it up and still take pictures with it. J.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_4525289 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 <p>Why German soldier? It may belong to a a Jewish photographer and camera could be prayed out of his dead body by his Latvian neighbor. Then it was saved on the attic in fear of the KGB. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller5 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 <p>Anything is possible but I do not think too many Latvians owned Rolleflex cameras back then. A 1932 Rolleflex would probably be initially owned by a German than a Latvian in that part of the world at that time and German soldiers did take pictures just like any other soldier. If anyone pried a camera from a dead body it would have been in good condition because they would have taken it when the corpse was fresh or before he died. It appears to me that camera was exposed to the elements for a long time. If they were afraid of the KGB or neighbors reporting them they would not hide a piece of junk they would have thrown it away. Like I said anything is possible but if I was a gambling man I would bet its initial owner was German. And why a Jewish photographer? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_4525289 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 <p>It is hard to tell but people would not hide an expensive camera unless they had reasons for that. Bloody or criminal history is one of the reason. And there was a value on Rolleiflex, everyone knew it. There were also people in the USSR who could fix them. If the camera came from Germans it would be a legit possession. But if it used to belong to a local Jew killed during the Holocaust the survival relatives could and would report the owner to KGB as a Nazi collaborator. And why a new owner did not throw it away...well because there was a known value on it. Just a guess.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_foreman1 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Wow.. what great imaginations and dramatic speculationis exhibited here.. I have a similar vintage Art-Deco Rolleicord which was not as bad in appearance as your specimen and had suffered water damage I think in a drawer probably in a wet basement. I was shocked when the shutter worked just fine. I have torn it down to replace the mirror which was so corroded etc .. still in pieces as all the screws broke when opening the viewfinder. ....Anyway I think Mr Meluso said it a combination of fire and water damage. . Your plan to leave well enough alone is good! ;)<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett_rogers Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 <p>All very interesting, but what I want to know is what sort of person puts a camera into their oven for safekeeping?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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