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Joshua , Larry

I have recieved my APO-SIRONAR-DIGITAL on a 15mm recessd board today . I am happy

as it took about 11 weeks to get the lens to my place .

Having the back frame put on the rail the other way round makes the SWA bellow move

very fine for shifts .

With this setup , I can shift more than my CFV back sensor sizes requires , but the

rotaslide adapter , the finest slider I have seen ( and had in my hands ) can not be used .

I had a phonecall with Martin Vogt from ARCA SWISS on friday and he stated , that they are

working on a solution for the " WA lens slide problem" . I will keep you informed .

Jack

Give me your E-MAIL address and I will send you a little pdf with the restrictions for the

203FE after it has been modified .

Jurgen

Kaj

Any 150mm LF lens is a good starter . Its like a 80mm for MF .

If you are doing B/W , I would recommend the ILFORD DELTA 100 and the FUJI ACROS 100 .

Both are available as sheetfilm in your size and are easily processed in drums , tanks or trash

, whatever you prefer .

I prefer tank , because the developing times are the same for MF and LF . No new learning .

Marc

Which 28mm digital lens are you going to use ? ? ?

Is it the SCHNEIDER DIGITAR F2,8/28L or is it the APO-SIRONAR-DIGITAL HR F4,5/28 ?

Both are available also with electronic shutters and both are rather expensive .

If you have a good dealer , he will assist you with the lensboard , which for both lenses

should probably be recessed

My APO-SIRONAR-DIGITAL F4,5/35mm is on the way to ARCA-SWISS (finally , after 8

weeks waiting for that moment) , and they will mount the lens on a 15mm recessed

lensboard for my ARCA 6x9 . AOV is 110 degrees .

I will then compare this lens with my 905SWCBiogon . AOV is 90 degrees .

Have a nice weekend .

Jurgen

Marc

"But a 48x48 (49x49) sensor back is within the reach of the near future"

Of course I do not know that such a sensor back comes onto the market , how could I . ?

I think , I should better say , I am convinced , I do blieve . That sounds better .

2 good reasons .

True wide angle photography . Think of the picture of that super wide angle camera you

posted some time ago .

Technical development never stands still . Improvements , as you pointed out as well as

sensor size .

J�rgen

Q.G.

The above mentioned testing revealed an issue with my SONNAR F2,8/150 lens .

The aperture does not open properly , or only very slowly to fully open after exposure .

I think this is an issue which can only be solved at CARL ZEISS .

I have this lens for my 2000FC/M as an exhibition model , but I hate , when my gear does not

work properly .

Marc

The origin of that information is easy to tell .

First , representatives of Rollei . I agree , they might have a strong interest to spread a

rumor , because the HY6 is open to attach a 6x6 film back , although this will only be

available later in the year , if at all . But a 48x48 (49x49) sensor back is within the reach of

the near future .

Second is PhaseOne . Their backs , with the appropriate adapters , will attach to almost

any camera , including viewcameras , espcially for studiowork .

All view cameras I know , are open for bigger sensor backs . And the demand is there .

I have heard many pros asking for a bigger sensor , especially for better wide angle

shooting .

So for me , it is only a question of time , but I do believe that biggers sensors will come .

Now the big disadvantage . To double the size of a sensor , increases the cost for the

sensor by the factor of 4 .

Tremendous costs for pros and studios are coming up .

But I see a trend , that many pros and studios dont want to own the gear any more , they

are going to lease or hire the required gear .

PCP (photo competence partner) is a group of the 6 biggest dealers in Germany , and

about 45% of their buisness is already leasing and renting buisness . This includes

cameras , lenses , digital backs and also complete flash systems , delivering the gear and

also picking it up again .

Ellis

I am using the V-SYSTEM cameras for film and with CFV back . It is just a great system .

And I also have a nice collection of them , some more than 50 years old , in very good

condition and fully working .

I have an english version of the HY6 catalogue . If you want , I can send it to you .

Regards Jurgen

Ellis

If that digital back will come on the market , it will not fit any HASSELBLAD H-SYSTEM camera

, therefore HASSELBLAD will shurely not be the maker of that back , and I assume that back

will be open to any camera which could adapt it , with or without adapter .

Herve

I had the chance to take a couple of shots with that camea . Its a great design .

Its designed to work with LEAF BACKS and therefore will have promotion prices , when you go

for that .

These backs will all have 37x49mm sensors .

But I was told (serious sources) there is a 48x48 sensor in the pipe and should be available in

springtime 2008 .

That will make the HY6 the leading camera in digital and film usage of MF .

Herve

You did not say , which camera you want to use .

If you are working with HASSELBLAD , then there is the CFV back , which attaches to most

HASSELBLAD V-SYSTEM cameras and also to most view cameras , if you have the correct

adapter .

Phase One and Leaf also have square sensor backs . Look out for the 16MB/17MB backs .

I myself use the HASSELBLAD CFV back , which is absolutely great .

Herve

The current available square sensor backs all have 37x37mm , no matter which brand .

I had the chance to use the HY6 and I must say it is a very good design . If the quality is what

the prototypes promise , this camera will be great .

It will be able to use 120/220 film and any digital back , currently available .

But , there is a 48x48 (49x49) mm sensor in the pipe and the HY6 would definately benefit

from this fact.

J�rgen

Neil

Not quite correct . The 2000 and 200 serie cameras do not return the mirror when using C ,

CF or CFE lenses , but will return the mirror when using F or FE lenses . Just to make shure , I

have just tried that out again .

J�rgen

John

I used the 180mm lens some years ago and found it absolutely superb for portraits .

It shows a wonderful "softness" , although not unsharp .

I can compare this to the HASSELBLAD CF 180mm lens , which is outstanding but somewhat

too sharp for portraits .

Larry

ARCA SWISS is a very small but also very fine company . They have about 16 people in

their house and some subcontractors are working for them .

The leather bellows for example are made by a little craftsmanship shop , purely

handmade .

That all takes time , and you are not the only one waiting for the desired item .

Please don't understand this as an excuse , but its just like many companies behave today

.

They don't produce on stock but on demand .

RODENSTOCK . I have ordered an APO-SIRONAR DIGITAL 35mm about 8 weeks ago .

They just can't deliver .

ARCASWISS . I have ordered a geared head CUBE C1 . 4 weeks delivery time .

So I just sit here waiting for the gear I would like to use .

There is no trouble with the APO-GRANDAGON 45mm in use with my ARCASWISS 6x9 F-

LINE METRIC . Also , there would not be an issue with the ROTASLIDE adapter .

But the 35mm lens , I am waiting for , is some millimeters longer and therefore needs

even a more recessed lens board .

The sliding adapter is at least 10mm . So the barrel of the lens resides well in the back

frame . You then can do shifts in the limits for the 37x49 sensor , but not any further .

If you now use a sliding adapter , sliding would almost touch the lens back and also the

sensor .

If I finally have my 35mm lens , I will be able to tell you more .

Joshua

Which sliding back are you using ? ? ? and with which lenses ? ? ?

Joshua

There are 3 WA leather bellows available now . The longest has 6 folds , the shorter one

has 4 folds and a very new one has just one fold . I have ordered that newest one 2 days

ago .

Also you would need the 15mm recessed lens board .

What type of back are you going to use ? ? ?

If you are using a digital back , you can just mount your back standard 180 degrees turned

around . Then the buttons are on the other side , but thats no problem at all .

But then there is more space between the front and back standard , and you can move

them closer to focus for infinity and also still do shift operation . You won't need tilt for a

38mm lens on infinity .

If you are using the 6x9 film back , you can , when the back standard is turned around ,

only attach the film back in portrait position .

What do you mean by bag bellow ? Is that the one fold bellow ? ? ?

Also , you can not use the ROTASLIDE adapter , when using APO-SIRONAR DIGITAL 35mm

or even 28mm .(or SCHNEIDER ) You could use the ROTASLIDE adapter with the MONOLYT

6x9 camera .

There , the front and back standards are different to the F-LINE camera .

The ROTASLIDE adapter on your camera can be used with lenses down to 45mm or longer

.

Michael

With a HASSELBLAD you have the ability of using many wonderful lenses .

You will miss this ability very soon when buying a TLR camera .

J�rgen

Daniel

No , 100% no , its not a HASSELBLAD . It most likely is a MAMIYA professional S 6x7 MF

camera .

H.P.

Have you been to this site :

http://www.lf-photo.org.uk/

Film is not dead , not in LF .

Regards Jurgen

Mihai

Obviously the direct way to the pdf is not possible .

So try :

htp://www.linos.com

Then choose english (left top corner) , choose photo optics , rodenstock digital and do

downloads for APO-SIRONAR-DIGITAL .

If you do not get the result , give me your E-MAIL address and i will send you the pdf .

Mihai

Have a look here :

http://www.linos.com/pages/mediabase/original/

rodenstock_apo_sironar_digital_e_2472.pdf

Save this pdf and then go to page 2 . Here you will find , what you are looking for .

Its only that little sentence at the bottom .

Regards Jurgen

Mihai

The image circle of the APO-SIRONAR-DIGITAL 150 is 150mm . This is valid when using the

scale 1:infinity and aperture 8-11 .

When you use a bigger scale , like 1:5 for example , same aperture , then the image circle

grows . I can't tell how much , but shurely only in a decent range . I have been to the LINOS

WEBPAGE but could not find a hint in figures .

Regards Jurgen

Jason

There are about 6 different ACUTE MATTE D screens available , but all of them have 2

notches on the left lower corner . So , what you have is a ACUTE MATTE D screen .

Jurgen

Peter

I join you here . I assume , that you want to take the cloudscapes in B/W as Ansel Adams

did .

I have done some tests last year and found the best time during the year for that is May .

I am using FUJI ACROS 100 and was measuring the exposure using the Zone System ,

taking care , that I still have image information even in the whitest parts of the clouds .

Using a spot meter , i put the darkest parts of blue sky to zone 4 (but also 3) . I use a

dark red filter (25) . Looking forward to hear more from other cloud fans .

Jurgen

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