vic_. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hans, society seems to have changed for the worse. There is a lot of intimidation and aggressive body language out in the streets. It's one thing for them to ask a simple question and get a simple answer, but for them to linger after that is intrusion into your mental space. Every society has a different perimeter of "private space" within which one should not encroach. In some cases violence results. I hope that never happens to you. Best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new hampshire john Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Frank, your collage of camera bag / rear view was in the Colorado legislature post, not this one... but still, nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Well, I am actualy complaining about two different sorts of people: 1. Scrofulous vagabonds who approach you with some sad tale of woe and ask for money. For obvious reasons, these people can be considered possible threats, for they may be desperate. 2. The curious, well-meaning sorts of folk who think that their curiosity is somehow grounds for interrupting or distracting me when I have perhaps only a small window of time to get what I want. To the former group I have nothing but warnings to stay away. When I am alone on the street with my cameras, I tolerate none. For the latter, I smile and nod politely, then keep walking, or ignore them. If I am not pressed for time, I sometimes will stop and chat. But it is my choice, not their right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hans, the girls would like to award you this certificate, for the.....<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Ja! Wunderbar! Sehr schön! I hope they have no family history of scrofula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 What is "scrufola," anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Main Entry:scrofula Pronunciation:*skr*fy*l*also -r*f- Function:noun Inflected Form:-s Etymology:Medieval Latin, from Late Latin scrofulae (plural) swellings of the lymph glands of the neck, literally, little sows, plural of scrofula, dim of Latin scrofa breeding sow : tuberculosis of lymph glands especially in the neck http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic524.htm http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001354.htm http://health.allrefer.com/health/scrofula-info.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 So, you're afraid of tubercular people approaching you on the street? That's a phobia I've not come across before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Scrofulous vagabonds are to be avoided at all costs, especially when demanding your spare change. <p> Did you know that in Montreal, the vagabonds are so cultured, that one � lying in the gutter � addressed me in <i>French</i>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 breeding sow That's not a very nice thing to say about two young ladies, Hans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 "Did you know that in Montreal, the vagabonds are so cultured, that one � lying in the gutter � addressed me in French?" I hope that's an attempt at humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Douglas K. , feb 18, 2004; 05:21 p.m."Did you know that in Montreal, the vagabonds are so cultured, that one � lying in the gutter � addressed me in French?" <i>I hope that's an attempt at humor.</i><p> I found it quite amusing, this bum lying in the gutter, screaming incoherently in French...of course I do not speak French, but still I assumne he was incoherent....covered in grime...reeking of spirits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 But why be surprised that he spoke French? That is the most common language in Montreal, which is French Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Douglas: You do not see the humor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Umm...Did you expect him to address you in some language other than his mother tongue? No, I don't see the humor. And I've wasted too much time on this inanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 ... at the zoo.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I really do not think folk choose to be a Begger, as a Career option. Usually they have mental illness problems, or addictions. I don't want to be wealthy, guess what, i want to be a Begger. Lots more fun. There are many Beggars who have been Professional people, and rich like you Hans. They have fallen by the wayside. Now that can happen to anyone...life is tough. A helping hand to those less fortunate...good Samaritan stuff. Perhaps you will find there's more satisfaction in giving then taking. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Allen: ...but not when I am out alone with my equipment...do you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 No. Just give them a few bob. End of story. I'm sure you are taking the piss. Hope so. Beggers. There but by the grace of God, walk I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Not when I am alone with my equipment..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Jeez, Hans, you are right. Those beggers will take all your gear, even strip you naked! We won't go into the other things they might do. Just sort of got that picture in my mind of you running naked through the streets. Terrible thought; you might run into Vic's community. They would probably think you were some sort of weirdo, or even worse a begger! They beat those sort to death. Yes, you are right Hans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Beggar..sorry Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 [ ] Safe [ ] Sorry Check one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hey Allen, Did you actually take that "fondle your lense" photo? Or did you borrow it from somewhere? It's pretty damn funny either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Allen, begging is not an honorable thing to do. Read any religious scriptures, and nowhere is there a mention of taking up begging. These people are too lazy to get up and work for a living. The mentally ill are an exception and belong somewhere else. In New York City they emptied the mental homes during Ed Koch's reign, and these people were living in the subways for years. I remember standing on a cold platform with dozens of other morning commuters, while one of these ill people calmly defecated on the platform and then got up and wiped his arse with the New York Post (the best use for this paper). The amazing thing is that everyone else pretended that nothing was going on and buried themselves in their morning paper. (I digress, but this sort of crowd behavior Hans "560" Beckert wants to see.) Allen, why is it that a lot of street photography on this site is of homeless people? That's lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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