pavel_l. Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Thank you for your thoughts. "... Our perception of the world is a fantasy that coincides with reality." Chris Frith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemorrellNL Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) I really like this photo, @pavel_l.! In terms of content and composition, the photo for me: - combines many different 'visual elements (house, trees, bench, stones, labyrinth, autumn/winter leaves) in a well-composed whole - demonstrates the 'gestalt' idea that showing part of the labyrinth is enough to 'suggest' the whole to the viewer - has multiple 'layers': > the visual pattern of the labyrinth in the park or garden > the overlaying leaves and (separately) the shadows of unseen trees > the deeper (historical/traditional) layer of meaning of the labyrinth in spiritual/contemplative/religious practices; For me, this is underlined by the bench (for contemplation?) I'm not a B/W photographer but I also really like the 'tonal composition' (including deep shadows and highlights).. So for me, this photo really offers the viewer a lot to appreciate and a lot to 'contemplate' 🙂. Congratulations! Mike Edited March 25, 2023 by mikemorrellNL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel_l. Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 7:21 AM, mikemorrellNL said: I really like this photo, @pavel_l.! In terms of content and composition, the photo for me: - combines many different 'visual elements (house, trees, bench, stones, labyrinth, autumn/winter leaves) in a well-composed whole - demonstrates the 'gestalt' idea that showing part of the labyrinth is enough to 'suggest' the whole to the viewer - has multiple 'layers': > the visual pattern of the labyrinth in the park or garden > the overlaying leaves and (separately) the shadows of unseen trees > the deeper (historical/traditional) layer of meaning of the labyrinth in spiritual/contemplative/religious practices; For me, this is underlined by the bench (for contemplation?) I'm not a B/W photographer but I also really like the 'tonal composition' (including deep shadows and highlights).. So for me, this photo really offers the viewer a lot to appreciate and a lot to 'contemplate' 🙂. Congratulations! Mike Thank you Mike for detailed review. Labyrinth, bench and leafs are the main idea of mine story. Cheers. 1 "... Our perception of the world is a fantasy that coincides with reality." Chris Frith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_rochkind Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Suggestions: The house isn't part of the main composition and, being very bright, is distracting. I'd crop at the top just above the bench. I experimented with this holding up a card and it was a MUCH stronger image. Tone down the bright leaves at the bottom, especially at the lower left. Increase the contrast and maybe the texture of the patio, to really emphasize the curves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1305us Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Like this photo as well. As usual, I won't go into technical reasons, because I'm not a technical guy. A photo works, or it doesn't. this works! I love the black and white, the composition, the framing, and the square format. It's a photo that makes me want to be there, if that makes sense. It looks ethereal in a way, as if it's a dream of some kind. Really well done, congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel_l. Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 5 hours ago, marc_rochkind said: Suggestions: The house isn't part of the main composition and, being very bright, is distracting. I'd crop at the top just above the bench. I experimented with this holding up a card and it was a MUCH stronger image. Tone down the bright leaves at the bottom, especially at the lower left. Increase the contrast and maybe the texture of the patio, to really emphasize the curves. Thank you Mark. I agree that part of house is not welcome here, it's the composition rule that dragging me down. Cheers. 4 hours ago, jc1305us said: Like this photo as well. As usual, I won't go into technical reasons, because I'm not a technical guy. A photo works, or it doesn't. this works! I love the black and white, the composition, the framing, and the square format. It's a photo that makes me want to be there, if that makes sense. It looks ethereal in a way, as if it's a dream of some kind. Really well done, congratulations. Thank you Jc1305us. Cheers. "... Our perception of the world is a fantasy that coincides with reality." Chris Frith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_rochkind Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 @pavel_l.: What composition rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanfsu1973 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, marc_rochkind said: @pavel_l.: What composition rule? Rule of thirds. His bench is close to 1/3 of the way down, 1/3 of the way in from the left and is a strong piece of the composition. With your crop suggestion, then bench gets pushed to the edge and, imho, would not be nearly as strong of an element and instead becomes and afterthought or distraction. Also, the outline of his labyrinth right now is basically hitting all 4 rule of thirds intersections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_rochkind Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Absolutely go with what you see as the image you want! Anything I say is just an idea. An alternative that also de-emphasizes the house is to tone it down. I don't know what you use in post, but I do this very often in Lightroom, which makes it very easy to put a mask on an object such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel_l. Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 22 hours ago, gmanfsu1973 said: Rule of thirds. His bench is close to 1/3 of the way down, 1/3 of the way in from the left and is a strong piece of the composition. With your crop suggestion, then bench gets pushed to the edge and, imho, would not be nearly as strong of an element and instead becomes and afterthought or distraction. Also, the outline of his labyrinth right now is basically hitting all 4 rule of thirds intersections. Thank you gmanfsu1973. You are correct. That is what I found If I crop out the white house. "... Our perception of the world is a fantasy that coincides with reality." Chris Frith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 It's a little too subtle for stupid me. I suspect I am not alone. The labyrinth is only apparent on studying and then I think "so what". Composition-wise I guess it is fine, but the image as a whole has little impact for me. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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