Henricvs Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 A ten stop range in print, and with standard development? A good trick if you can pull it off! Just a graphic, doesn’t mean you should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henricvs Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Use it, like it and made this to assist my brain. I've added EV before and after zone selection. The zone system is just a tool, like a reflector, you use it to help and not to solve all exposure desires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_halfhill Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I never get 10 stops range in darkroom prints. Zone 0 is maximum black (d-max), Zone I is very dark gray. Zone VIII is near white, Zone IX is paper white (d-min). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I never get 10 stops range in darkroom prints. Zone 0 is maximum black (d-max), Zone I is very dark gray. Zone VIII is near white, Zone IX is paper white (d-min). From 0 upto and including IX? That's 10 zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 From 0 upto and including IX? That's 10 zones. You obviously missed the maths lesson on calculating range. It's maximum number minus minimum number, and 9 minus 0 = 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Sure, Cowboy... Maybe you should read instead. And use your fingers instead of getting lost in theories that do not apply. The content of your thoughts and the real world are not necesarily the same. Though you will certainly find it very difficult, do trust other people to have a better grip of things than you, at least some of the time. So read: Zero is maximum black, Zone i is very dark gray, [...] Zone IX is paper [maximum] white. I'll count the zones for you: 0 is the first, number 1 I is the second, number 2 II is the third, number 3 III is the fourth, number 4 IV is the fifth, number 5 V is the sixth, number 6 VI is the seventh, number 7 VII is the eight, number 8 VIII is the ninth, number 9 IX is the tenth, number 10 in total. Do you really have to have it spelled out like this? Or are you just trolling along, as always? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Just use your ten fingers and thumbs q.g - assuming you have only ten and they're not webbed - and count the spaces in between. I think you'll find there are only nine spaces. That's what's called range. I'll spell it out: R A N G E. Look it up. Edited January 13, 2021 by James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Just use your ten fingers and thumbs q.g - assuming you have only ten and they're not webbed - and count the spaces in between. I think you'll find there are only nine spaces. That's what's called range. I'll spell it out: R A N G E. Look it up. Still, the range encompasses 10 distinct zones. Not 9. The magnitude of the range is 10, not 9. A picket fence consisting of 10 picket poles represents a range of 10 poles, not 9 spaces. Just like i have 10 fingers, not 9. Etc. That's real life against your theories. Only you would think you only have 9 fingers because there are only 9 spaces between the first and the last. What complete silliness to even argue this way, Rodeo Clown. Edited January 13, 2021 by James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 And on that happy note we can end this foolish back and forth. 2 James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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