tom_doyle Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I recently shot a roll of expired slide film in my mamiya 645 super. I've shot several before this and never had this issue. Upon receiving the slides back from the lab I noticed that running the entire length of the film there is an iridescent green running vertically on both sides. As I said I have never had this happen on the handful of rolls I've used in this camera. I am wondering if this is from a light leak or possibly having the edges exposed to more light than is ok during either loading or unloading or storage. I am unsure if the storage before I purchased it but the other roll that I used came back fine. I also have never noticed any foam light seals which on other forums people believe may be the problem. I'm relatively new to this camera and have not posted anything on this site before. If I knew how to post pictures I would so as to allow y'all to see what I'm referencing. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 <p>See http://www.photo.net/site-help-forum/00buPE<br> post a picture of the slides on a light box or in front of your monitor with a blank document with a white background.<br> The green lines sound like scratches either from the camera or processing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 <p>Also, it is usual to return the end of the film before (or maybe after) the part that is mounted.<br> You could also show that one. Or, if not, you could remove one frame from the mount and show the whole piece of film. (Choose one that isn't worth keeping, though you could remount it.)</p> <p>I just notice that you said 645, I was thinking about 35mm. I don't know how mounts work for 645.</p> <p>For roll film, light can leak in if the paper isn't held tight enough, and that could show up on the edges. There could be leaks of humidity, or other vapors, through the edges and affecting the film, though I don't know of any such stories.</p> <p>Is it uniform over the length of the roll, and equal on the two sides?</p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_doyle Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 It isn't exactly equal as far as amount but it is the same colour and yes it uniform over the length of the roll. I'll see if I can find a way to post one or two of them. Thanks for your responses.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_doyle Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 Is that picture showing up for anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 <p>The green bands across each end of the posted image are light leaks. Being you were using a 6cm x 4.5cm format the horizontal image ends were next to the outer edges of the backing paper. I suspect the film is not being wound tight enough by the camera. Increasing the supply spool tension will cause the camera to wind the film tighter. Open the back in subdued light, your body shadow should be sufficient.<br> Before removing the exposed roll from the camera put pressure on the take up spool and pull on the end of the backing paper until taught then roll up in camera. Avoid exposing the exposed roll to bright light.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 <p>95% sure you have Fat Roll syndrome as said. The light is leaking in from the edges. The other 5% says it could be a leaky back.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_doyle Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Would both of you guess that loading and unloading in the dark would solve this issue? Or do you suspect that I would need to take my camera for a repair of some type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 <p>Loading/unloading in low light/dark will help but if the film is winding loosely then you will still get the light leak when handled at the lab or any place else the exposed roll has to be handled in light before processing.</p> <p>Looking at an online owners manual I think the film advance is a clutch system therefore it should be checked by a technician to verify its correct. If the spacing is uneven by .5mm or more then the film holder/back needs servicing. Normal film spacing should be around 2mm between frames.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 <p>Just to be sure, make sure that the paper is tight, but not too tight. <br> It is possible to get it so tight that the pressure on the film causes bad effects.</p> <p>Normally, keeping the roll out of direct sunlight, as above, even shade from your body should do it, is fine. Depending on how the roll comes out of the camera, sometimes you have to be a little careful to keep it from loosening too much. </p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_doyle Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 I had developed another roll. Thought I was shooting regular but the realized I shot another roll of the expired slide film. From the same batch I'm pretty sure. This time it can back with purple where the green was. And because it was cross processed it was grainier. Could that have caused the green to go purple? I'm so frustrated with this situation. I really don't want to "waste" a roll but I think I'm going to have to do this to see if it's the camera, developer, or film.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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