michaellinder Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <p>Lannie, indeed the urge to photograph, in my book, falls within the need for self-actualization. Interestingly, I wonder whether it's an act of narcissism to describe oneself as self-actualized. In my own case, I'm much more comfortable viewing myself as striving for that. Self-actualization, like growth, isn't the sort of goal that comes with a sense of finality. Is it plausible to view it as both goal and process? I'm not sure. </p> <p>It would take a more serious student of Maslow's work to argue whether his hierarchy is correctly ordered. Personally I think it is confining to look at the hierarchy strictly in linear terms. It just popped into my head that self-actualization may encompass the rest.</p> <p>Julie: From R.D. Laing's The Politics of Experience - "<strong>If I could turn you on, if I could drive you out of your wretched mind, if I could tell you I would let you know</strong>." Possibly were you alluding to this when you stated, "The point of much of art is to change your mind. Change your mind."</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie H Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <p>Michael, that's good. Thanks. Putting a bitter edge to it, this from Samuel Beckett:</p> <blockquote> <p>t is useless not to seek, not to want, for when you cease to seek you start to find, and when you cease to want, then life begins to ram her fish and chips down our gullet until you puke, and then the puke down your gullet until you puke the puke, and then the puked puke until you begin to like it. — <em>Samuel Beckett</em>, Watt</p> </blockquote> <p>**********************<br /> Thinking about the 'art' tangent, it reminds me of how much of an art it is <em>not</em> to pursue (indulge!) one's personal needs, i.e. for professionals like Ian. ("food, clothes, rent") to suss out what the client wants/needs and <em>not</em> to unknowingly infuse it with his own slant. He has to know where the off-topic (personal) art seeps in and stop the leak.</p> <p>Yet that same client expects a certain flair be added to <em>his</em> desires. You have my sympathies and admiration.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <p>I bought a camera and realized it was a waste of money unless I used it. I'm driven by not wanting to contribute to landfill with yet another gadget that wasn't used.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_h Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <p>For me it is a lifelong habit. I started when I was 6 years old with a box camera. That was 58 years ago, and somehow life feels strange if I am not shooting photos. Shooting gives me the impetus to travel, and to interact with people when I am making their photo. What could be better than that?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 <blockquote> <p>Thinking about the 'art' tangent, it reminds me of how much of an art it is <em>not</em> to pursue (indulge!) one's personal needs, i.e. for professionals like Ian. ("food, clothes, rent") to suss out what the client wants/needs and <em>not</em>to unknowingly infuse it with his own slant. He has to know where the off-topic (personal) art seeps in and stop the leak.<br /> Yet that same client expects a certain flair be added to <em>his</em> desires. You have my sympathies and admiration.</p> </blockquote> <p>Julie, sometimes I am glad that I am not a professional photographer. I don't think that I could handle customer relations.</p> <p>I have had enough frustrations with the students buzzing around my head the last two days. It can be maddening.</p> <p>--Lannie</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <blockquote> <p>I bought a camera and realized it was a waste of money unless I used it. I'm driven by not wanting to contribute to landfill with yet another gadget that wasn't used.</p> </blockquote> Were you on the writing team for Yes, Minister, by any chance? :-D And it's true that bad art is still art. Just like a bad car is no less a car than a Ferrari 250 California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tholte Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <p>It's simple for me because I am not an artist or philosopher. I take photos to prove that I exist and that I have existed for quite some time. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 <blockquote> <p>Were you on the writing team for Yes, Minister, by any chance?</p> </blockquote> <p> <br> No, quite stupidly, they never asked. I have only been on more mundane writing teams, like Mercedes-Benz and my own music site.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 <p>The true photographer/artist finds the light only if, like the candle, he/she is their own fuel, consuming themselves.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 <p>I think that you are saying that there has to be a passion, Allen. I do think that that is primary, and I don't think that that can be learned. One either has the passion to do the kind of photography one does, or one does not. There is not a lot of middle ground.</p> <p>--Lannie</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
good_karmatoday Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 <p>It depends.<br> <br />We take photos especially to share with our dear one's and as a memory for all of us.<br> <br />In creative sense, we do photography as we are hooked to the art of creating good images. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 <p>I think I take pictures first for me, but also to share. Often I see something ordinary or otherwise dull that I think should be photographed. Even if my wife says "why do you want a picture of that?" I usually go ahead a take the picture anyway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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