sidney_zohn Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 <p>Hi all,</p> <p>I can't figure this out --</p> <p>I just got 7 rolls that I've been hoarding since last year developed, and noticed a few completely gray shots. The gray shots were all taken indoors, so I'm thinking it has something to do with the exposure time? However, other photos in the same roll that were taken in a similar setting/environment have come out just fine. I've posted some examples below. First photo was taken in a cafe in the morning when there was tons of natural light. I probably took this at f/4 or 5.6 and 1/125 on 400 color kodak gold film. The second photo was taken in a dim restaurant at night where there was hardly any light. Probably taken at f/2.8 and 1/15 or 30, also with 400 speed color kodak gold. I don't have the deepest knowledge in camera speeds, but I've used this camera (pentax spotmatic) for nearly 10 years and haven't really had this problem before, especially within the same roll as other shots that came out fine. I just got it CLA'd by Eric Hendrickson, so I don't think it's a camera issue (or I hope not!).</p> <p>Thoughts?</p> <p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/oisforsunshine/07790013.jpg" alt="" /></p> <p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/oisforsunshine/07790015.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="332" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_robertson2 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 <p>If the camera body is in 100% working order then the only possible explanations for the underexposure are:</p> <ul> <li>user error (shooting in manual at the wrong exposure)</li> <li>fooled light meter (a bright highlight in the frame may have tricked the camera into underexposing)</li> <li>lens fault (aperture sticking)</li> </ul> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 <p>Indoor low-light shots with a few strong light sources can, as Jamie said, totally baffle a center-weighted meter. I still use the old trick of metering closely off the palm of my hand in more or less the same light as my subject and using that reading. With slow shutter speeds, any sort of support--back of a chair, a beer/wine bottle--really helps with sharpness in a cafe/bar/club setting.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin McAmera Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 <p>Are these your scans from the negatives, or scans or prints from a shop? If so, have you looked at the negatives to see if they are the same? Could just be a mistake in their scanning.<br> The second picture I'd say just needs a better scan, to have a proper black. </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 <p>I have a suspicion that James could be right. Check your lens aperture? I have one lens which is the opposite: it's sluggish to stop down. Another lens I have doesn't stop down at all.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendel_leisk Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 <p>Per Pete, have you looked at the negatives? Underexposure would typically result in a <em>black</em> print, not grey?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 <p>I use exposure off my hand, plus one stop.<br> I suppose it depends on your hand, but many are closer to 36% where you want 18%.<br> Or you could carry around a small 18% gray card.</p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I can see a few spots of yellow lights in the gray photograph. I would suspect the negative is almost clear except for base color and some darker spots where those lights can faintly be seen. Let us say 12 seconds is a normal printing time for a good print of a well exposed negative. If the printer analyzer sees a clear negative it will drop the printing time to maybe 6 seconds and you get a gray print. The same thing happened on the photo of the girl. The normal print time for a good negative was reduced so the blacks are more toward gray but the girl did not come out very, very dark orange which is what would have happened with a 12 second print expose. The first photo was grossly underexposed; the second photo was badly underexposed. James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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