Do you find shooting digital a lot like dry firing a gun?

[philipward]

<p>You need a permit for a gun but any damn <strong>#@% </strong> fool can shoot a wedding!.</p>

[DickArnold]

<p>I was a range officer and weapons instructor on .45 ranges. The only similarity I see comes from a WWII weapons training film. Think of the trigger (shutter release) as if it were a tube of toothpaste and if you don't want to jerk off a wild round, slowly squeeze that trigger like you would the toothpaste tube so you don't flinch before the weapon fires. That would help also at slower shutter speeds to keep from jerking the camera. BTW don't shoot a military .45 caliber automatic pistol in the rain. It will rust slightly and jam. </p>

[stp]

<p>I think the analogy is pretty absurd. I don't shoot film to get a little transparency back from the lab, and I don't shoot digital to get a little picture on the back of the camera. I shoot my film and digital cameras pretty much the same way: connect with my subject, consider several aesthetic compositions, set the camera for the conditions and for the image(s) I want, take the photo(s), make any necessary adjustments on the digital file or the scanned transparency, and then print. The workflows have their slight differences, but the desired goal and product are the same.</p>

[Norma Desmond]

<p>Susan Sontag was savvy enough to add phalluses to the gun/camera analogy. In which case, most would probably choose James Danais's top gun.</p>

<p>Dick, glad you added that bit about jerking off . . . a wild round. Susan couldn't have said it better herself.</p>

[wpahnelas]

<p>besides a similarity in some of the jargon, i don't believe the process of making a photographic image is anything like using a weapon. this is true, even though many people imagine cameras possess destructive and hurtful properties.</p>

[DickArnold]

<p>Fred, having been an Air Force Pilot and, as I said, a firing range officer, it was long understood before Susan Sontag wrote it that the barrel of a weapon and the nose of an airplane may have been viewed subliminally by some as an extension of what Susan Sontag wrote about. I don't think cameras are generally viewed in that way. Well, maybe my 100-400L?</p>

[steve_levine]

<p>Where is Freud when we need him?</p>

[steve_swinehart]

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<p>Not Trying to cause any problems with digital users,</p>

 

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<p>Yes you are, otherwise you wouldn't have made this statement,</p>

 

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<p>Is it the same to you, or do you just kinda settle? I know what I think, but what do you guys think.......?</p>

 

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<p>I think this is another waste of 0's and 1's and 2 minutes of my life that I'll never get back...</p>

[jgalyon]

<p>Steve, You might consider swiggin' down a big bottle of "lighten up"! :) We're not discussing Pat Robertson's remarks about God raining down wrath on Haiti! </p>

 

[markci]

<p>I think film is like shaving a cat, and digital more like plucking a chicken. Discuss.</p>

[steve_swinehart]

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<p>Steve, You might consider swiggin' down a big bottle of "lighten up"! :) We're not discussing Pat Robertson's remarks about God raining down wrath on Haiti!</p>

 

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<p>I see...well, next time I'll use a smiley emoticon for sure so you don't get so wee wee'd up...just calling balls and strikes on this one as it's simply another thinly disguised digital versus film thread that puports to be different because it starts out with a disclaimer...not very original, not very well thought out, and not very well presented. Other than that it's just fine - great big giant smiley face back at 'ya....</p>

[jack_welsh]

<p>And, in the reverse. Slip a roll of film in a camera and you are ready to go. What applies to digital, can also be applied to film, too. Slip a memory card, or a roll of film, same thing when it comes down to the basics. Either one can be as complicated, or as simple, as one wants.</p>

[craig_gillette]

<p>A 1911 will shoot a lot longer in the rain than most cameras.</p>

[greg_peterson3]

<p>My excitement with photography, which has lasted for more than fifty years, comes from the image I create, not from clicking the camera. I don't find any significant difference in the amount of anticipation I feel when working with my D3x than I had with my first Nikon F, loaded with Kodachrome.</p>

<p>For me photography is about pictures, not about cameras or pixels or chemistry.</p>

<p>So, to echo Jon Mullen's comment above, <strong>NO</strong>.</p>

 

[RobertChura]

<p>The most amazing thing I heard in this post is that James still has and might even use a slide rule</p>

<p>. I tell my daughters about one and they get a glazed look in their eyes.</p>

[James G. Dainis]

Now that this thread has about run its course, I suppose I can go off topic. I can do many things faster on a slide rule than on a calculator. While people are still punching in numbers on a calculator I have already made a quick adjustment on the old slip stick and am looking at the answer. My job when I accompany my wife abroad is to convert currency values for her. I carry a small 5 inch long slide rule in my shirt pocket to do so. Other than that, I am to stay away from her in stores. <p>

If the dollar is $1.35 to the euro (e), I set the index mark to 135 (there are no decimals or "0"s on the slide rule) and I am all set. The dollar values are on the D scale and the euros are on the C scale. <P>

 

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<center><img src="http://jdainis.com/slide_rule.jpg"></center><P>

 

 

If my wife asks me "How much is 30 euros?" I glance at my slide rule and tell her "$40.50'"<P>

 

If she asks me "How much is 60 euros?" I glance at my slide rule and tell her "$81"<P>

 

If she says, "I only want to spend about $20 on this gift, how much would that be in euros?" I glance at my slide rule and tell her "14.80 euros".<P>

 

If she is looking at some gosh awful piece of antique junk and asks me. "How much is 300 euros?" I glance at my slide rule and tell her $10,000".

[swilson]

<p>And if something cost 80 euros?</p>

[DickArnold]

<p>I used to be able to hold a slide rule in one hand while taking an engineering test with the other. I used a circular slide rule called an E6B in an airplane for forty years. I could operate that with one hand also and it was faster than punching numbers in a flight managment system today. </p>

[swilson]

<p>I use a circular slide rule many years ago, still have it in fact. Not long ago I used it for a bit, for old times, I forget just how bad they were. For most problems where a slide rule would be good enough I can just estimate the answer in my head even faster.</p>

<p>Of course if you are going to use a calculator you need a good one that works in RPN, sadly not many of those are made these days, but happly I did get a HP 35s.</p>

[James G. Dainis]

"And if something cost 80 euros?"

 

If I didn't want to move the slide so that the right hand index falls onto 135 and the 80 euros would be above $108, then I would just glance at the slide rule for 40 euros and double to answer.

[the celt 2]

<p>Like the NRA says. When film cameras are out lawed, only outlaws will have film cameras.</p>