lookupinwonder Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Ok, I only developed one roll yet (Tri-X rated at ISO 1250 in Diafine). My main subject matter is concerts, low light, high contrast. This worked very well. Even the shots on the roll taken in plain daylight looked very good. Sharp, nice contrast, no excessive grain. In the past I have used fast films (HP5, Tri-X) regularly and had them developed via the drugstore photo service or sometimes the local lab. Even when shot at rated ISO, these negs (I only scan by the way) looked very grainy and not that sharp. Usually I would not even consider them for large prints and had to 'tame' the grain in digital post processing. Slower film (FP4) looked a lot better and was/is my B/W film of choice for normal situations. My analogue gear is a couple of oldish Nikons (FM & FE) with my AF primes on them. What puzzles me is that I used a developer that enhances film speed, a fast film and still my first try looks better than the stuff I had done at the lab. So the result is sharper AND seems less grainy. How can this be? I will experiment and compare more the coming weeks and see if this observation is consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Up until the 1970s it was possible to get good quality, inexpensive processing and printing of b&w film. Once color film became affordable and popular the quality of "drug store" b&w processing quickly went downhill. Even as a kid in the 1960s I could see that the quality of b&w processing I was getting from the local outlet was inferior to the prints my parents and grandparents got in their era. That's when I started processing my own b&w. Even today some so-called pro labs tend to overdevelop b&w film. This, combined with the underexposure that's common among many new photographers, leads to excessive contrast and grain. Combine that with indifferent processing and printing and it's not difficult to do better work at home. A few times over the years, maybe once a decade, I've had a local "pro" lab process and print b&w for me. They never fail to disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_l3 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 It's been 34 years since I sent in a roll of b&w film to a lab, and since then have developed hundreds of rolls myself. There's a very good reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Diafine is a great developer. I do not find the grain objectable as for sharpness issues that could be slow shutter speeds also. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 There are still drugstore services doing B&W? Not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookupinwonder Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 "There are still drugstore services doing B&W? Not here" Well, I think it won't be for that much longer. In the Netherlands you have the HEMA department store, it has had a decent photo service for decades. Of course they send it to some huge lab, but you can still have your B/W done. They also sell their own B/W film (rebranded Ilford FP4 and HP5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I don't know that drug stores ever did photo processing in house, at least not before minilabs took hold. During the 1960s when I dropped off my film at the corner drug store in Mount Vernon, NY, it went to a lab in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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