pablodetorres Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I'm going to New York on a holiday at the end of this week and I'm looking forward to taking b&w pics. Any suggestions as to which film will help me capture the best pics daytime and evenings this time of year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Tri-X or Tmax 3200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asher Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I shot Tri-X in NYC in April and while it was perfect for the jazz club scene, I wished I had Plus X for the daytime. The skies were blown out. Ideally, I should have loaded Tri-X in one camera and Plus X in the other. Next time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Don't know why Asher thinks that skies won't be blown out with any film in NYC - especially in Manhattan. With so many tall buildings and narrow streets, there is a huge contrast range between the streets, which are mostly in shadow for a good part of the day, and the sky. Meter for the shadows and the skies are grossly overexposed. Do the opposite and the shadows loose too much detail. Trying to capture that much dynamic range is difficult and often impossible. TMax 3200 is too much for daytime use, though it can work well for night scenes if you know what you're doing. Plus-X is lovely stuff, but ill suited for the very low light conditions you might find even during the midday hours in some locations. Tri-X is the best all around film you can get for the job. If you like Ilford's HP5+, that's ok too. Bur for my money, I still think that Tri-X is the better choice. Why do I know this? I'm a lifelong resident and have been watching the light and photographing this town for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeb380 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Regardless of what film you use, you will have the same problem of either loss of shadow or blown out skies. To counteract this, expose for the shadow detail and then process for the highlights. Shadow is most affected by exposure and highlights are most affected by development time. I used tri-x or plus x in NYC and got good results. Of course the ultimate is to have two bodies, one with Tri-x and the other with plus-x. In bars or waaaay off B'way theaters I used to shoot High speed recording film, 2475, (no longer made) at about 3200 or 4000. Tmax can do the same for you. But you can't use the high speed stuff in daylight. (f you only have one body, you might shoot all the exposures on the low speed film in daylight and then switch to higher speed at night.) This is a case of one film won't do the job for you. Have funMichael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Tri-X in Diafine rated 1200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_oneill2 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I've been using HP5+ in DD-X with good results in NYC lately. Obviously, there's a lot more to shoot in NYC than tall buildings against bright skies. You didn't say when you're coming, but overcast Autumn days provide some very good lighting, and with DST ending soon, early light moves up an hour, which is a good thing because it makes it easier to get in some shots before things get too crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablodetorres Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Thank you all guys, that's really helpful. I'm coming tomorrow night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpolaski Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Be prepared for some serious contrast. (Digital image made 5 days ago with no post-procesing) Try moules frites at night at Maison, on 7th Avenue at 53rd. Outdoor seating, of course, and Tri-X will be very sufficient.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v._b. Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I had the same question before going there in August. I used Ilford HP5 and FP4. I'd say HP5 was better suited, but there was a lot of sun those days, so FP4 was also fine in many situations.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v._b. Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 And yes, one more thing - you don't want to blow out the sky, why not to use some filters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asher Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 <p><i>"Don't know why Asher thinks that skies won't be blown out with any film in NYC" </i><p> You're correct- I should have added that the choice of film is largely dependent on the individual's shooting style. Often, I like to meter off the highlights and block up the shadows, which is difficult for me to do woth ASA 400 film and a camera system with a max shutter speed of 1/1000 and lenses that stop down to f/16 only. When I was in NYC I often shot at 1/1000, f/16 and often could not get any detail in the highlights. I had no filters with me as well. Perhaps none of this is an issue for the OP. Thank you for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsmith Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I shot NYC earlier this year and got great results with TXP-320 (for both afternoon and night pushed to 800 in Tmax developer) and tmax-100 during the day. TXP-320: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1412/540436170_ebe54783ae_m.jpg Tmax 100: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1368/542324491_9bd4f2328a_m.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juergen_fassbender1 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Just use Tri-X and in develop in Rodinal (or in Diafine when rated at a higher EI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko_kovacevic Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Tri-x Try to use a wider lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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