willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 A few days ago, Daniel Lawton posted asking if anyone has results from the Rollei Ortho. I shot a roll on Dec 29 and rated it at 25 with a Haze-1 filter. It was developed in HC110 for 7 min at 1:12 dilution. This was for continuous tone, altho I was also offered a high contrast development. When I picked them up today, the guy at the front desk of the lab said high contrast development with ortho film would render black & white...I think he must've been confusing orthochromatic with ortho lith. The dark skin tones seem to work best when the subject isn't in bright, direct sunlight...not to mention that having tan/darker skin helps. Anyways, enough talk...enjoy the results<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 In this shot, I like how one side of her face is sunlight, while the other side, which is falling into shadow, starts displaying the ortho look, especially under her eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 another<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 and one final one<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 In this shot, I like how one side of her face is sunlight, while the other side, which is falling into shadow, starts displaying the ortho look, especially under her eye<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 just for comparison's sake, a shot taken on orthopan film (Efke 25 + Haze-1 filter) to compare the skin tones to ortho film.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wang Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I have been play with Ortho film, I think the ortho film will enhance any blemish on skin since they redness, so make up is very very important(or you can choose different model with better skin). Dark red lip stick will become dead black in result image, so warm red a bit to brown will make it dark and sexy. I also find out that dark yelllow filter make the skin much lighter and very sexy looking. Try it you will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wang Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Here is a small sample crop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 X.M. - can you post anything bigger? It's hard to tell anything much from that crop since it's so small. How light does using a yellow filter make skin with ortho...isn't the point of ortho to get the dark skin? If you want light skin and dark lips, why not use regular pan film with the appropriate makeup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 I'm curious...on the data sheet for the old Agfa Ortho, it lists a development time in Rodinal 1+10 for 4 minutes at 68 degrees. Would that work with the Rollei Ortho and if so, would it provide continuous tone or high contrast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 J&C Photo lists the following info:<p> <u>ADOX 25 Ortho Film for continuous tone:</u><ul> <li>Rodinal R09 1:100 - 13-15 minutes <li>Agfa Rodinal 1:100 - 14-17 minutes </ul> Good idea for Rollei Ortho 25? (esp Rodinal 1:100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Hi JP. My favorites are "tatoo" and more so, the last one on Efke. Very nice. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Johnson Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I think the pics show that ortho film can be used to get the fine art look with this type of pics as well as the conventional male portrait,a good result. I developed the Adox Ortho film EI 12 in Rodinal 1:100 OK,guess the Rollei has a good chance as well,maybe EI 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 Alan, do you have any examples of your Adox Ortho in Rodinal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Johnson Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I don't have a scanner J-P. Lightly tanned model was lit by studio strobes,front and 45 degrees.I get the same good variation in tones as your pics but your outside lighting gives a better effect in the case of headshots.Your idea to work outside may be better for this.Here I refer to Adox Ortho. New art form photo.net found here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 The most pronounced ortho look will be shown when the model either has very dark red lips or is wearing red lipstick. As has been noted any red colored blemishes will be more apparent with ortho film. By photographing a model with darker skin you lose some of the ortho effect because the contrast between her lips and skin is lower. For a model with blemish free skin and with a skin tone which is not obviously reddish, the ortho effect is not as apparent. It looks like you were careful to give adequate exposure to the model's face while shooting against a bright background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share Posted January 7, 2007 I really just metered off her face and exposed for what it said... Interesting comment about what kind of skin/makeup gives maximum/minimum ortho effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pics Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Thanks for taling the time to post these John-Paul. Lots of good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share Posted January 7, 2007 No problem, Dan...I want to run some more tests, developing the ortho in D76 and some of the Rodinal combinations suggested by Agfa and Adox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Excellent! I really liked the tonal range in the Efke film. Can I ask how you scanned the images? What scanner, and was it from the neg or print? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 The images were scanned from the neg on a Noritsu Koki QSS-32_33 by the lab. Remember, if you want that kind of a tonal range, you'll need a subject with darker skin. I've shot Ekfe on my sister, who isn't tan like my friend in those photos, and you don't get tones like that...or it could be that I didn't use a Y2 filter this time as I usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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