richard_ilomaki7 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Ho There I just saw a preview of a movie called "FUR" staring Nicole Kidman as Diane Arbus- a sort-of biopic. I looks to be visually super and I have heard it is "Interesting". I will undoubtedly go to see it and read up a bit more on Ms Arbus in the meantime. There were some good scens of vintage Rolleis. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beepy Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/picturehouse/fur/">High Definition video preview</a> on Apple site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 The trailer didn't do much for me. Trying to be arty and Hollywood at the same time. A sledgehammer with a designer handle. Nicole Kidman? Feh. Judy Davis would be more suitable. Bet $$ that the Rollei shutter sounds like an SLR. Don't wanna send the entire state of Iowa into a mental confusion. Jeez I can be a miserable old crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_mitchell3 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 The photos I have seen of Arbus at work show her using a Mamiya twin-lens not a Rollei, not to say she never used one. I agree with Jack, the shutter sound probably will not be appropriate. Another Old Crank, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_mitchell3 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Research first, comment second. Apparently, Arbus switched from a Nikon F to a Rollie Wide, then used a Mamiya C33 with its interchangeable lenses. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 oh, my god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00EdFw&tag= Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Thanks for the link Jeff. While it is true that Kidman is a fine actor, she looks miscast in the trailer. Of course (ain't I mellow now) trailers can make a good movie look bad almost as often as they can make a bad movie look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 The very-attractive Kidman was also miscast in the awful movie "The Hours" as Virginia Woolf, a woman whose looks could have sent a boxcar up a gravel road. Of course, unlike Woolf, Arbus was an amazingly-talented artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosina_snap Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Woolf, like Kidman is considered by many to have been quite a talented artist. Putting the fake nose on Kidman was a huge mistake. It made her look cross-eyed and was totally unnecessary. A review I read said that not one of Arbus' photos were shown in the film probably because her estate was not pleased with an "imaginary biography" of that very real person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Reflecting on Virginia Woolf brings to mind English author Samuel Johnson discussing poet Thomas Gray: "(h)e was dull in a new way, and that made many people think him great." "Many" revere Woolf's works as feminist manifesto, ignoring the poor technical quality and sheer tediousness of Woolf's writing. By way of contrast, when I first looked through Diane Arbus' monograph it almost brought me to tears. I knew if I lived to be a hundred I probably wouldn't make a single image as perfect and powerful a several dozen of Arbus' best images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosina_snap Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Preferences differ. I notice that in The Oxford Companion to English Literature Virginia Woolf is described this way...."Virginia Woolf is now acclaimed as one of the great innovative novelists of the 20th cent., many of whose experimental techniques (such as the use of the stream of consciousness or interior monologue) have been absorbed into the mainstream of fiction..." I think, aside from both sharing a tragic end by taking their own lives, they have much in common as pioneers in their fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Hollywood being the way that it is, I'm sure that Kidman was the biggest name the producers could get to take the role. Miscast? Well lets see, a tall blonde from Down Under cast to play a short Jewish New Yorker with brown hair? Yeah miscast certainly, but without Kidman in the billing, the movie probably would still be in what they call "development hell" That's show biz for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sypal Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 <p> I can't imagine a worse movie "about" Diane Arbus...</p> <p>"Fur" looks so awful and removed from reality, I don't know why they have to even call Nicole Kidman "Diane Arbus". Why not instead call the main character something like <em>Nancy Frutensmith the Emo 50's Woman Photographer</em>? </p> <p>Next year watch for "StreetTalk" featuring a witty & wacky Take No Lip from No One Chris Tucker as Garry Winogrand. Watch Garry work his smooth camera moves on the streets of San Francisco putting the focus on <em>Looove</em> to woo all the fine foxes. But when he inadvertently captures a drug deal gone bad with his D-200 watch out cuz' the feathers and bullets are gonna fly as he tries to figure out the good cops from the bad on a whirl-wind around the world trip through the streets of Milan, Tokyo, London, and New York. </p> <p>Special cameos by Matt Damon as Peter Beard, Jackie Chan as Henry Cartier Bresson and Steve Buscemi as Lee Friedlander.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Buscemi as Friedlander: yeah, I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Better yet, Buscemi as Avedon. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosina_snap Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Maybe this is the beginning of Holywood seeing photographers as cultural hotties. They may just be working their way through the subcultures which abound in American culture but are rarely acknowledged in the major media. Personally, I am waiting for Hollywood to do a feature on "Those Darn Accordions" with Kidman as one of the female virtuosos on the Stomach Steinway aka the Belly Baldwin. What time is it? It's Polka Time! Isn't it odd that no one plays "air accordion?" pity. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john sypal Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The more I think about it, Steve Buscemi would be perfect for a 1960s Lee Friedlander. Gary Busey as Winogrand? Brad Pitt could play a young Peter Beard. Have you seen American Splendor (or About Schmidt) ? Hope Davis would make a good Diane Arbus http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204706/ And... Gregory Peck as William Eggleston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Leni Riefenstal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosina_snap Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Isn't Gregory Peck dead? I think I saw his sarcophagus in the basement of Our Lady of the Angels Cathedral in L.A. But maybe if the screenplay is good he'll come back :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sionnac Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Second Judy Davis as Arbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Since the the movie bills itself as "An imaginary portrait of Diane Arbus". my advise is to keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_nobile Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I saw a brief writeup on this film and it's mostly fictional. The film attempts to explain how Arbus developed as an artist by inventing a 3 month period of her life where she is transformed with the help of a fictional character from a dutifull '50's house wife into the Diane Arbus we know today. Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Arbus have enough drama in her real life to fill about 10 feature films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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