photographers and commercialisation

[ben_jamin1]

hello.

just doing a litlte bit of research with

advertising in photographs..

looking mainly at any anti commercial photographers very much street

themed..

can anyone suggest some good works or photographers..

stuff along the lines of claudio edinger perhaps.

thanks.

[EricM]

<a href="http://www.leveckis.net/">Edmo here</a> and

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/63361458@N00/"> here.</a> <br><br>

 

Grant's <a href="http://streetzen.net/"> awesome here</a> and

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23435213@N00/show"> here.</a> <br><br>

<a href="http://www.johnsidlo.com/">John S.</a> <br><br>

 

<a href=" http://www.flickr.com/photos/kipling/">Kipling.</a> <br><br>

<a href=" http://dgoutnik.net/">Dimitir.</a><br><br>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mecan/show">Steve W.</a> <br><br>

<a href="http://www.jamiejenkins.ca/">Jamie J.</a> <br><br>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/53002143@N00/show">Jeff S.</a> and

<a href="http://spirer.com/"> here too.</a> <br><br>

<a href=" http://www.markushartel.com/">Markus H.</a>

and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mhartel/">here too.</a><br><br>

<a href=" http://www.citysnaps.net/">Brad E.</a><br><br>

<a href=" http://tssullivan.net/">Tom S.</a> <br><br>

<a href=" http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=299288">Barry</a> and many more... <br><br>

[doris_chan]

"anti commercial photographers very much street themed.. can anyone suggest some

good works or photographers.. stuff along the lines of claudio edinger perhaps"

 

In what possible way can you consider Edinger to be "anti commercial"?

[Spearhead]

Doris asks a good question.

[Uhooru]

I'm not sure who's "anti-commercial" and actually not sure what that means. But here's some

other that I like:

 

<a href="http://chaospress.com/">Ray</a>;

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/Eric_Vancouver/show">Eric</a>'

<a href="http://www.brashares.com/">Beau</a>;

<a href="http://www.mariaszulc.net/">Maria</a>;

<a href="http://www.ianmaceachern.com/">Ian</a>;

and so many more, including Tony Dummett here on p.net and so on.

[Uhooru]

..and Jenna, Mike Dixon, Tim Holte, Miguel Mealha, on and on. There is lots to feast on.

[ben_jamin1]

ok sorry i didnt phrase that right..

id like work that is commercially themed (not neccesarily *anti*)

i suppose i mean john goto's ukaida work as a main inspiration as far as anti anything goes. yeh edinger is'nt like that, i was being ignorant for a moment.

im gona loook over the answers fnow, keep em coming.

thx

[agardner58]

<p>And don't forget these guys...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.akochanowski.net/" target="_blank">Andrew</a> and <a href="http://www.pbase.com/andye/root" target="_blank">Andrew<a></p>

<p>And it has nothing to do with the fact that they are both Andrews!</a>

[ray .]

you forgot Andrew Lee.

 

thanks Barry.

[Uhooru]

de nada Ray. We all forgot Peter A...

[fate_faith_change_chains]

<a href="http://www.artukraine.com/photoart/photoukr.htm">Boris Mikhailov's</a>

work has a certain look and theme that is non-commercial.

[EricM]

"de nada Ray. We all forgot Peter A..."

 

I didn't in my original post, Barry, but just when i went to hit submit, his page came up blank. He's taken all his photos down...I hope he hasn't thrown in the towel too...

[Uhooru]

"I hope he hasn't thrown in the towel too..."

 

I looked, he's still on p.nyet, but no photos. I hope not..

[Uhooru]

...and then there's Jeremy Freeland and Jung...

[EricM]

yes. there's many not mentioned here. make links. does Jenna have a blog/flickr going yet?

 

that Dave Mirra dude showed promise too :)

 

Balaji's gone...Takk's in the middle of nowhere Calif, so...aw phuck.

[jenna_g]

<i>does Jenna have a blog/flickr going yet?</i><br><br>Hey Eric! Not yet. Planning on doing something (blog, flickr or website) and I'm in the process of going through my images trying to edit it down a bit. I've posted close to a picture a day since I've been on PN and have a bunch on here I'm not too crazy about.<br><br>As for staying? Well I have not yanked anything yet, but I'm still bummed over the departures. Edmo, balaji, Peter, Maria and several others either have yanked their entire folios or stopped participating on this forum. I'm happy to see some still posting, as well as a few new people, but we've lost a lot of talent here. Lots of those folks really motivated me so right now some of my enthusiasm for this forum has been zapped. For now I'm sticking around, but I'm undecided on how active I will be.

[Uhooru]

Like you Jenna, it seems like this forum has been gutted. I'm posting but not as much. Will

this become a dead zone?

[EricM]

just keep rowing

[________1]

I didn't realize Balaji had pulled his images, that's very disappointing. This is all quite screwed.

[ian m]

Anyone know where everyone went? Somewhere else? Not online any more?

 

Things aren't the same.

[jeremy freeland]

Thanks for the mention Barry.<p>As ususal Jenna seems to do a better job of articulating than I could do - yup, the forum has lost a lot of very good shooters recently, and as I got a lot of inspiration and learning from them, my current enthusiasm's definitely taken a hit. I don't think it would be so bad if people had just moved on, but there's a relationship between bannings, deleted threads and departed photographers that leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm relatively new to this genre, but what I like about it is that it's unsanitized - it recognizes that there's something resonant in scenes and occurrences that can seem uncomfortable or challenging on the surface. If PN's going to confine the forum to something they think is comfortable for everyome (and I think of the TRP as a yardstick) then I worry that I'm not incented to push myself and explore more. And I don't know that PN's going to change that - key administrators have a lot on their plate and it doesn't look like this forum is of interest to a majority of users, so there's not much incentive for them to bother. Criticism is just deleted, without even an explanation - very saddened to see Bruno's Dear Moderator thread go missing - there was a lot of valuable input on what people wanted from the forum in there, AK bullshit aside.<p>I've been happy to find a lot of posters here on flickr (including Eddie Law - another missing name). For now I'm dividing my time between the two ... but I haven't yet found an equivalent to PN where information exchange, image posting and discussion can occur in a single thread. Ultimately I agree with Eric - I'll keep rowing because there's a lot to gain from this - but the bloom is off the rose.<p>And Ben, I've been enjoying this site, <a href="http://www.in-public.com/site/index.php">iN-PUBLIC</a> too.

[EricM]

You know, a gentlemanly apology would have gone miles.

 

Now they/we let one talentless self absorbed individual, that most cower away from for fear of banning, run amuck. A shame that this didn't have the reverse effect and strengthen us to continue in a fashion like we never have before.

[ray .]

Talentless? That's a little harsh Eric, and anyway, what's wrong with leaving him alone to do his thing and have his audience of camera hobbyists? There's a point at which others provoked him; it's certainly not one sided; nobody is guiltless.

 

Nothing excuses abusive languange, I don't care if you're Pablo Picasso, there's no reason to be mean in order to make a point. That some people have chosen to take their ball and go home because they believe good photography excuses bad manners, well, that's their choice, but it makes no sense to me. At any rate it will pass and there are always others of talent who will eventually show up. Life goes in cycles; no need to cry about it.

[Brad_]

<I>That some people have chosen to take their ball and go home because they believe good

photography excuses bad manners...</I><P>

 

Who are those people? I don't recall anybody saying that.

[EricM]

Talentless. Yep, sorry. Sorry Al if you're reading this; that's just my opinion. Didn't intended to make it sound like an insult.