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I'm pretty much with Jamie. Although S&D has always been my favorite type of photography to look at, I didn't actually try it myself until I joined PN. It's been very helpful to get feedback from those who have done this type of photography for many years. And like Jamie I go through slumps!

 

As for artist's egos? Photographers, like any type an artist, have egos. Those at the highest levels, or those who even think of themselves at or near that level, tend to stick together. When I had my first show a few months ago I was excited because I knew I would have a chance to meet other photographers. There were numerous photog shows throughout the area, lots of receptions and one big reception for all of the photographers. For the most part I found those that were already on a professional level to be more ego driven than those who were relative newcomers to the Art Scene. Why? The had already achieved a level of success the newcomers had not. Name recognition, money, whatever.

 

You could say the same about some of the photogs on PN. People like edmo, Grant, Jeff and a few others have had tons of praise on their work. Maria has had a POW on a site that rarely recognizes street work in that capacity. Al on the other forum has reached the same level by self-promotion. Whether or not they deserved to be elevated to such a lofty status here is open for debate, but the fact is they were elevated. They had admirers and followers that most of us don't have. Are they that good, or did egos play a part? I think some are that good, while other's egos were inflated by lavish praise.

 

Ray: Whatever talent I have, it's up to me to fulfill it. I don't think I have yet. My work isn't like edmo's but what impressed me most about his work was it's consistency. When you are consistently showing good work your talent level must be pretty high. All you have to do is look at the last w/nw threads he posted. I don't think many here, myself included, are near being that consistently good.

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one talented guy left(on his own or banned?) and suddenly the whole forum sucked? How do you guys live in the real world? Do your own photography with your own talent. The great Maradona left the soccer scene but soccer in Argentina never stopped. I never let anyone's destiny control me. I do wish to have my father's looks though.

 

Of course, Doris was spot on again and I cannot agree with M. more.

 

btw, I came here to see photos.

 

Everyone of us should have gotten baned one day or the other. But since noone is paying for moderation, live with it.

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Travis, I never said the forum sucks! I simply stated that we have lost some very good photographers, not just edmo. When I say he was consistently good, that wasn't a knock on anyone else. I think a lot of others are consistently good as well. Of course tastes are subjective. Some people don't like dark, moody stuff, and others do. I never tried to emulate him, but yes I thought he was darn good, one of the best photogs on PN. Just my opinion.

 

And yes it's about the photos. I think that's what this was all about. A lot of us still here will miss the past contributors because most IMO were very good, but yes this forum will likely bounce back. I know Ray has made an effort to get things rolling again and I appreciate that. Once I get some new images ready I'm sure I'll start contributing more photos than posts like this.

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Jenna, I never said that. Wasn't directed at you. This whole thread gives me the feeling, all because one talented guy left(or banned?). I appreciate everyone's effort in getting this going. I just don't feel anyone is above all. I never missed people who have found a better place for themselves elsewhere. I wish them luck. I think this group is still good.

 

btw, if the moderation is paid, this thread should be long gone.

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