Surprise Benefit

Discussion in 'Classic Manual Cameras' started by royall_berndt, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. When I'm shooting with old gear, older people often approach to tell me they are "glad to see one of those again." They then tell me how they or their relatives used to shoot with the same camera. They clearly are pleased, and even grateful, about what I am doing. I'm not sure what psychology is revealed here. Maybe a sense of continuity, of respect for something old that is nonetheless good. Whatever, people's reactions are so warm that they cheer up my entire day. I imagine people react the same way to old cars still on the road.
     
  2. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Moderator Staff Member

    Nostalgia, association with past experiences, in possibly kinder or at least less harsh times. I have even gotten some of the same shooting with the DF, never mind when I'm out with the film Nikons.
     
  3. Ditto. The fancy thing is, more than once I've been greeted with a "WOW! That's a REAL camera!"or something in this sense from people half or a third my age (so, nostalgia doesn't fit in). In a specific case, the comment came from a Japanese guy in his (I guess) early '30s with some sort of massive DSRL hanging from his neck and assorted lenses all over his body, while I was using a Contessa 35 folder...
     
  4. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Moderator Staff Member

    So much is said about "negatives" (pun intended) of taking photos in public, that the positives are often forgotten. I have had many pleasant conversations with strangers about cameras and photography while on a photo "expedition".
     
  5. I think it is spreading. I was sitting in the stands at a high school football game with an F4S in hand and a kid maybe 13-14 years old came up and gave me the exact same real camera line. He was truly impressed. I've updated some digital gear but I've added much more film gear to my tool box and several manual focus lenses. I'm enjoying them more than the digital process. Yesterday I hung two new/old safelights in my darkroom. Now if I can just find some developing trays....

    Rick H.
     
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  6. paul ron

    paul ron NYC

    funny thing about shooting old cameras, i get thrown out of places by the cops saying i need a permit since i look like a profesional. my rb67 gets me in so much trouble.
     
  7. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Moderator Staff Member

    I was in camera sales when that came out --BIG / cool! I can't imagine being thrown out of a place -- politely asked to leave, possibly. I think a bit of it is presentation and blending with the place you're shooting, or being a harmless character / tourist.
     
  8. I've had some reactions like it, but funny enough mostly from non-photographers. The place I lived before - a LOT of tourists - I got sad staring looks from people loaded with high-end gear and big lenses on a few occassions; looking at me like I was clueless trying to make something work that simply couldn't work.
     
  9. Time filters negatives........;)
     
  10. TLR's usually draws a lot of attention; or actually any camera I use with a waist-level finder. Often they ask where I get film and are surprised when I tell them that film is available for sale just 3 blocks from the White House - and among many other places too. I enjoy the conversation but eventually change it to asking them what pictures they like to take...
     
  11. Yes, the TLR gets the attention for me too. Probably because it's so different from what people are used to seeing. I'm well into middle age but it's something I associate with previous generations since my Uncle had one. So even by my standards it's old.

    Modern DSLRs and compacts often bare a passing resemblance to old SLRs and compacts. That classic look is also showing up again on modern cameras so I don't think old SLRs stand out quite as much, unless someone sees you focusing or advancing the film.

    I gave my old Olympus to somebody who volunteered to take a family photo at Thanksgiving. I let her know that it needed to be focused manually. She told me not to worry, she remembered these from her high school photography class. She did just fine, until she had to take another picture. She looked puzzled for a minute and then it dawned on her that there was another step. ;)
     
  12. I'll admit it's fun to hand a TLR to someone who's never used one as the reversed view often produces some confused looks. A lot depends on who you hand the camera too. For the most part my family and most friends usually do just fine, although my sister-in -law managed to almost cut half the group off a couple of Thanksgivings ago with a tripod mounted digital camera!
     
  13. When I used to work with a view camera the two most common questions I would get is does that thing take old time pictures and where is a good restaurant.
     
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  14. I shoot film until 2013 and people tend to look down on me because I used film. Now when I shoot film I see less of that.
     
  15. Last summer, I was hiking with my Vest Pocket Kodak down a trail, and a Japanese guy, who might not speak English, took a picture of me and my camera with his iPhone.

    My usual description of a DSLR is a camera that you can't use to make phone calls.
     
  16. Yeah, I love it that film is making a come-back. Reminds me of vinyl LPs. It just won't go gentle into that good night.

    I tend to get smiles and nods from people when I'm out shooting with one of my film rigs. But I get other reactions, too. I was at a Civil War Re-enactment a few years ago, carrying my Bronica ETRSi outfit. I have a prism finder and a speed grip for it, so it handles like a big 35mm. I'll never forget one guy who was all decked out with his digital gear, and who looked at my ETRSi and said, paraphrasing, "Now that's a camera!" I wonder what he would have said if I'd been carrying my Pentax 67, cuz that, my friends, is a camera and a half. Or maybe even two. I also recall being on a photo shoot, again a few years back, where I brought my old Canon F-1 with Winder F to the event. Except for one guy with a home-built 4x5 who used it quite sparingly, I was the only one there with a film camera. Every time I fired off a shot, the Winder F went grrrr-grrrr-grrrr as it advanced the film at a leisurely 2fps. And every time I took a shot, the model would look up at me with a somewhat surprised look on her face. She'd never heard the noises that film cameras with motors attached make! It made me feel a little self-conscious since all the DSLRs there barely made any sound at all. But I got over it.
     
  17. So, my question...is photography the camera or the photographer? Can a good photographer use an iPhone camera and still be considered a real photographer?
     
  18. You can't be much of a photographer without a camera so I'd say that for now it's both. When we have intelligent drones flying around taking pictures that match their profile of what is pleasing then maybe you can have photography without photographers. I suppose in some ways we have that already.

    Phone cameras are getting more and more sophisticated but they have their limitations. They are also extremely convenient. Anyway I'd say yes, absolutely a real photographer can use an iPhone. Again, you have to work within their limitations but that is true of any camera.
     
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  19. paul ron

    paul ron NYC

    AS soon as they see that monster come up, Im tagged as a Pro. In NYC the cops automatically jump on you looking for permits. I explain Im not a pro but they dont want to hear it. I had 10 cops surround me on a public beach while taking pix of an egret. Little did I know the nude section of the beach was off to my right and one of the cop's girlfriend called accusing me of taking their pictures... which isn't illegal BTW. I insisted they arrest me for taking pictures on the beach but instead I got a ticket for not following the direction of an officer. The bum never showed up in court and it was dismissed. BUT I had to sit in court all day before my case came up. I did write a letter to the PBA civilian review about this officer and his girlfriend and the treatment I got from the lot of them. All I ever got was a make believe apology saying it was a misunderstanding.

    At the Winter Garden... I was talking pictures of a friend from Russia that wanted to send pix home to show her decadent life in the USA. She had on a nice evening gown, waking down the huge stairs. 3 cops came n told me to stop taking pictures unless I had a permit. I explained the woman was a guest in the USA and wanted nice pictures of her visit to show her family back home. NO NO NO! OUT! Again I insisted they arrest me as they escorted me out the door... but of course they cant since its a public area..... asked nicely?

    In front of a hotel in NYC taking pictures of the main enterance. The security guys came out n told me I cant take picture of the building. I was taking the pix form the sidewalk. They insisted and called the cops. Think the cops would know the law? NOOOOooooooo they told me to move along or ELSE! I insisted on the OR ELSE but they wouldnt take me in. I got a ticket for blocking egress on the sidewalk, which they created by harassing me as a crowd grew... again, no show in court but I sat there all day. Complained to the PBA but no response.

    wana her a few more?

    hahahahahahah thrown out and dont come back no mo is how they do it here in the rotten apple.
     
  20. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Moderator Staff Member

    Some folks are just remarkably gifted! :D
     

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