hjoseph7 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 I have unopened bottles of Kodak fixer, Cibachrome developer kits, R3000 developer kits, Acufine, T-max developer, D76, that have been sitting on the shelf for at least 2 years. They haven't been refrigerated or anything. What is the possibilty that these chemicals are no longer functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btmuir Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 There are general guidelines but no one will come right out and say "it's fine" but here is what I've found from experience. The D 76 is still in powder form I presume?? If so. I'd say it would be good up to 5 years. I've used some at least 2-3 years old without problems. Now if it has been mixed into Stock or Working solution all bets are off after about 6 months although I have used Stock solution that was 8 months old. The fix should be fine for 2-3 years ESPECIALLY if it was a full unopened bottle. I have some older than 2 years that still works. Of course if this is for a paying client then you owe it to your reputation to go buy fresh stuff. I suspect most here will just advise you to do tests with uncritical rolls/sheets and I would certainly agree. I have no experience with home color processing so I wont say a word in this dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_earussi1 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 If it's powder, unopened and still dry then probably "forever." If liquid, a few years for developer and fix as long as the chemicals haven't settled out in the bottom, usually in crystal form (they don't easily remix once separated). Stop bath, being just acetic acid will also last "forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 For Acufine in the original tin, 20 years is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 "(they don't easily remix once separated). Thanks for the advice. Maybe I need to start shaking some of the chemicals once in a while so that they don't settle and separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 For Kodak D-76, the foil lined paper bags were a bit iffy. If they leak oxygen in, the powder will turn tan or brown, and the developer is toast. The foil/plastic bags currently used are much better. Of course, the old tin cans are pretty much eternal! You don't care if the powders settle and separate. That's not a failure mode. You always have to mix the entire container. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_raymondson1 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 My rule is to error on the side of caution for anything used with film but just go ahead and try it if it's for prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 ""(they don't easily remix once separated). Thanks for the advice. Maybe I need to start shaking some of the chemicals once in a while so that they don't settle and separate." That's not smart. Oxygen is the enemy of the stability of photographic chemistry, indeed of chemistry in general. By shaking it up, you introduce more oxygen into the mix and speed up oxidation. This is high school chemistry 101. What do they teach in school these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_mcleish Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 And then there is Rodinal, you cannot kill it. I once got my hands on several old glass bottles of Rodinal that were at least 10 years old. Used them overy the next 3 years, no problem. I have had open bottles with as little as an inch in them and black as coffee. Still worked great. The formulae is from the 19th century. Goes to show, you cannot kill perfection. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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