JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>This is by way of a return to the scene of the crime.</p> <p><strong>Minolta Maxxum 7000 -- the early ‘crossed-x’ version</strong><br /><br /><em><strong>1985</strong></em><br /><em><strong>Kadlubek Nr. MIN1050</strong> </em><br /><br /><br> It can be, and often has been, argued that this was the first truly successful automatic focus camera.<br />Virtually overnight it made the jury-rigged AF systems of many other manufacturers look and feel obsolete.<br /><br />My report on it at http://www.photo.net/modern-film-cameras-forum/00YGy4 back in 2011 when I was just starting my trek down the history of the AF camera still pretty much sums up my experience.<br /><br />To repeat two elements about this triumph that turned it into a sort of disaster for Minolta:</p> <blockquote> <p>How they got cute and used a crossed-X on "Maxxum" that looked just like that used by Exxon. How Exxon slapped them down.<br />How Honeywell got them for patent infringement on the AF system to the tune of 127.6 million US dollars. (~283 million in 2014 $)<br /><br /></p> </blockquote> <p>Anyhow, although the camera is by no means rare, the crossed-x variant is a little more scarce. Plus my camera store has gone out of business and I got it with an AF Kalimar 75-200mm lens for about 1.5 pizzas.<br /><br />Here is the original ad for the first version:<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>And here is the camera with my kawaii ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii ) Maxxum 35-80mm f/4-5.6. I put on my BH70T battery holder (2CR5 lithium) in place of the BH70S (4 AAA batteries) it came with. Everything snapped to life. Both lenses worked fine once I remembered the AF/M slide switch on the front. <br /><br />I have to say, these old “automatic” cameras took a lot more trouble to get started up than the newer cameras do.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>Here’s where the trouble started, the Exxon-reminding crossed X:</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>There’s nothing particularly cute about it, but here is the Kalimar AF 75-200 f/4.5 on the camera.</p> <p>I’ve actually had pretty good luck with Kalimar simple, long primes, but this is the first AF lens by them I’ve ever used. I was curious about it as well. Of course, the AF is in the camera, not the lens.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>How did the camera work, now that I’ve had chances to look at most of its competitors?<br /><br />Here’s a typical snapshot- a neighbor won the ‘coveted’ “Bright Spot” city awards.<br> Perhaps this splash of vegetation and color livened up my otherwise kind of slummy area.</p> <p>With good verticals in the image, the AF did OK on the 35-80mm lens.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>And although it was rainy and dark, could I skip my trademark iconic water tower?<br> I tried to get the sensor (in the center of the viewfinder) over the tower legs, but the telephone pole in the foreground definitely won out. This was taken with the Kalimar 75-200mm at 200mm.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>Out to the Lake (not the campus one), where the house boats provided good verticals for the Maxxum with the Kalimar.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>House boat abstracts.<br> I tried folks, I really did. <br> Focus here was sort of a catch-all anyhow, of course.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>However, WILDLIFE intervened in the Wildlife Refuge.<br> Getting the AF to grab onto the bird’s neck was tough, but it did pretty well, to my surprise, after struggling with “no that that” several times….</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>Here it is trying to deal with not much vertical and lots of detail. Surprisingly good once I could get it lock on.</p> <p> </p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>Where I couldn’t get anything vertical for the AF to lock onto, it was nearly impossible to shoot, since the focus motor would hunt all over the place and not let you take a picture because it was ‘out-of-focus’. It's one way to guarantee your pictures are all in focus, -- just don't let the user take a picture that isn't in focus. [There is an alternative- manual focus.]<br /><br />However, this one astounded me.</p> <p>This is the danged system somehow focusing on the raindrops on the window instead of the reflections. Snapped right into focus. Wow.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>Compared to the early, pre-Maxxum and contemporary cameras from Canon, Nikon, and the like, this was definitely a contender.<br> Maybe if they hadn’t trusted whoever it was sold them a rip-off of Honeywell’s AF system, they’d dominate the market today?<br /><br />Enough.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>That brings back memories, JDM. At the family camera shop we were a bit late adding the Maxxum 7000 to our line-up so none of ours had the crossed XX. I resisted for a while, but finally bought a 5000 with the 28-85 f3.5-4.5 zoom. Enjoyable post.</p> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>My wife had (still has in a box) a 7000, don't know whether it's a crossed-x version or not. Probably not as it was bought in 1988. In any case, it took great pictures, and I have always thought that despite its very unconventional controls, it was quite friendly to use, and intuitive. The auto focus is, of course, its sore spot but that is handled rather conveniently by not using it at all. AF also gobbled batteries, so turning it off was also quite helpful on that score. The lenses were good, and like most Minoltas, the meter was accurate.</p> <p>As JDM has found, the AF needs verticals. It's not too bad with the fast normal lens, but worthless with a slow zoom. </p> <p>Alas, the 7000, like some other old Minolta Af cameras, had an aperture base plate problem, it seems. I don't even know exactly what that part does, but my camera guy says if it goes, you're out of luck. Replacements don't exist, and spare cameras dried up a good ten years ago or more. So if your Maxxum 7000 goes south, just toss it and get another, I guess. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_shumpert2 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 <p>I picked up one with a 50mm f1.7 on it for $5. I got it for the lens and was going to sell the body, but the re-sale is next to nothing. When KEH was at a local photo lab, they would have given me $1 for it. It works fine, so I may be tempted to put some film in it this weekend. It is currently on the shelf next to it's much younger and more capable sibling, the Maxxum 9xi. I had the crossed xx one many years ago but it died. A camera repair guy actually gave me more than I paid for it because he wanted the crossed xx.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famico Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 <p>Thanks for the trip down memory lane, JDM. I still remember fondly my Maxxum 7000, my first auto focus camera. It arrived just about the time I realized I was having big trouble trying to focus manually.<br> I still have it buried away in a closet somewhere. Now reading this thread makes me want to find it and just hold it for awhile and remember. ;-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 <blockquote> <p>the first truly successful automatic focus camera.</p> </blockquote> <p>I meant, "the first truly successful automatic focus <strong><em>SLR</em></strong> camera." It all goes back earlier in 1971 to AF point and shoots - the first commercial version of which was the Konica C35 AF which I reported on at<br> http://www.photo.net/modern-film-cameras-forum/00bBLh</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 <p>This was my first Autofocus camera. I purchased it back in 1998 used for about $200. I don't think mine had the crossed-X though ?</p> <p>Not only did Exxon come down on Minolta because of the crossed-x, but Honeywell sued Minolta claiming they stole their Autofocus Patent. This would cost Minolta $156 million dollars but some say it was much more than that and could have been the beginning of the downfall for Minolta. </p> <p>In any case, this camera was the first one I owned where the keeper rate on a 35mm 36exp roll of film was higher than 85%. Prior to that my keeper rate was about 50% due to autofocus issues. I kept this camera for about 2 years, but traded it in for a Canon Elan II, because it started skipping entire frames of film occasionally. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_momary Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 <p>Back in the early '70s, Exxon was known as "double cross" mostly for their <em>mineral-rights lease acquisition </em>practices. As an undergrad geology major, I worked one summer with them in the West ... and yes, they were pretty <em>slick</em>.</p> <p>Informative write-up on the 7000, great story! Thank you for the illumination.</p> <p>Jim</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_chuang1 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 <p>Oooh, I have one of those telezooms. Two, actually [hangs head], one is labeled "Ozunon" and the other I can't remember. Might be a Kalimar as well, but I'm not sure. Both in Maxxum/Alpha mount. Both have some internal haze, but here's a (sub-banal, crappy) shot taken wide-open with the Ozunon at full extension. IIRC I was given the Ozunon by the owner of a now-defunct camera store.<br /> <br />Thanks for the interesting and informative post. I didn't know the grips were interchangeable, among not knowing a bunch of other stuff.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 I'm such an egoist that I think everyone should read this old post of mine again. Accordingly, I'm adding this to it so it will show up in the lists as though it were a new post. How do you like that, Dr. Frankenstein? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 One interesting fact about the first generation Maxxums (5000, 9000, and 7000): You can use most of the "reverse engineered" third party lenses without a problem. When Minolta came out with the i series, many of those lenses would not work. Sigma would update theirs for a while until parts ran out. But, JDM, it is a worthy post that should have some more exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_cooper9 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I was temporarily working in a camera store in 2002 when a customer came in with a really beat-up 7000. I thought she wanted it repaired, but no, she was just picking up some processing. The camera had travelled the world with her. Being a Minolta lover myself, I liked the 7000 and the 9000 Maxxums, and still have some 7000's along with the ultimate, the Maxxum/Dynax 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaTango Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I'm such an egoist that I think everyone should read this old post of mine again. Accordingly, I'm adding this to it so it will show up in the lists as though it were a new post. How do you like that, Dr. Frankenstein? JDM, I wait with bated breath for the next pearls of wisdom to drip from your fingertips... :p "I See Things..." The FotoFora Community Experience [Link] A new community for creative photographers. Come join us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebu_lamar Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 It's the camera that Minolta got sued for and I think the settlement of this law suit was a factor that caused Minolta to cease its camera business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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