Ansco unmarked 127 film.

I have bought a camera and it came with a roll of

exposed 127 Ansco film. I have spent two days in the

next looking for clues but nothing. The film is silver

paper with black edges. It looks like All weather pan but

it doesn't say All weather on it. I'm trying to find out

developing time but I need to know what film I got. Any

idea? Film came from Kodak vest pocket autographic

but I don't know if the film was autographic or it was just

shot in that camera due to lack of proper film. No

markings on the roll except for Ansco.

<p>What developers do you have?</p>

DD X and Rodinal.

<p>Use Verichrome Pan times, you should be fine.</p>

<p>Thank you, John. Do you think I should compensate any for age? Should I use less time or lower temperature?</p>

<p>I would look at the beginning of the roll, and see what it says there.</p>

<p>When you did drugstore B&W processing, they didn't do different times for different films. They just ran them at a generic time that was suitable for Verichrome, or later for Verichrome Pan.<br>

Lower temperatures do reportedly result in less base fog. Sure, go for 60 F or colder with temperature compensation.<br>

When I use HC-110 with old Verichrome Pan (1970's), I'll throw in 10 or 15% more time. But all these "box camera" B&W films are pretty forgiving.</p>

<p>I confess to a certain cavalier attitude about old B&W films.</p>

<p>For me it's pretty much been 8 mins in D-76 at whatever temperature the developer happened to be at. I've never had a real failure with this approach, given latitude and corrections after scanning. </p>

<p>YMMV ;)</p>

<p>So far, I have used Diafine for all my old film. <br>

I tried to buy some HC-110, but it seems that school started up and students bought the whole supply around here.<br>

Maybe a little more fog than with other developers, but VP usually works fine. Even back to 1957.</p>

When I get home, I'll unspool the film and see if any

name or useful info is present on the leader portion of

the film. If not I will go with 1:25 rodinal and lower

temperature and use Verichrome times.

<p>Or you can try the tried and true Rodinal 1-100 semi stand for an hour.</p>

<p>Here's what I'm dealing with. Why in the world would the manufacturer not put an ISO rating or name of the film. By the little pointing hands this film looks very close to Kodak, but it does say Ansco. Here are some pics.</p><div></div>

<p>Also, it was quite crunchy and hard to put on the reel, so I assume it's quite dated. I think, I will go with Rodinal 1:100 for one hour, hope it will be sufficient.</p><div></div>

<p>Please let us know how it goes.</p>

<p>Could be pretty old. I have had good results from 1957 Verichrome Pan, but not so good from older Verichrome (not pan).<br>

For older film, lower temperatures are better. Maybe less than 55F.<br>

Also, the tape might not stick anymore.</p>

<p>OK so the roll went into 1:50 Rodinal for 10 minutes. Pre soak for 3 minutes, develop, stop, fix. Low and behold! two images are present on the roll. Both are at the very beginning (closer to the core) one I can see a tree and some hills, the second one seems out of focus. The rest of the roll is gone. Nothing but muddy mess. Either the shots were there but deteriorated due to age, or they were never shot. All in all, I can claim one frame from the roll. I will try to scan it and post the pic here. Thanks to those who offered some inside advice.</p>

<p> It is all we can do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTiXoMCppw</p>

<p>Back in the late 60's my dad gave me a box of 25 rolls of Ansco 127 to shoot in my Sears (Imperial) Cubex 127. I still have a strip of paper backing and it looks like what's pictured. I think Ansco kept the same type of paper for a while. One problem I had was in my ignorance I was careless about letting light shine on the red film counter window so my Ansco negatives sometimes had an imprint of the frame number in the picture. Never had that happen with Verichrome Pan or Kodacolor-X. But considering the single speed shutter and single element lens, I did get some useable pictures. Based on Freestyle ads in old Popular Photography issues, my film was either All Weather Pan or maybe Versapan (if it was even made in 127?) </p>

<p>There was last week some All Weather Pan 127 on the famous auction site. I bid low and didn't win.<br>

If I do buy film, I hope to be able to use it, though not necessarily get great results.<br>

I believe I have some AWP in 620, though, to try.</p>

 

<p>IIRC, All Weather Pan is an ISO 125 film so if it ages in a similar fashion to Plus-X expect some fog. All Weather Pan was made for a long time so the age would make a difference as well. If the film is older than 1960 it will have a lower recommended speed, but that would be due to the increased safety factor. Ansco, Kodak, Ilford, and others revised their black & white film speed ratings around 1960.</p>

<p>Should it be more similar to Plus-X or Verichrome-Pan? VP is pretty good, though after enough years, you find some fog. FX is better, TX is worse.</p>

<p>Verichrome Pan and Plus-X are both ISO 125, but differences in their emulsions might give one an advantage over the other. Yeah, Panatomic-X keeps very well. A few years ago I shot a roll that expired in 1964 and it looked new. No detectable fog.</p>

<p>To all of those who helped or try to help with the exposed film. I have finally scanned the one and only negative that was on the roll, at least the only one that remained. Here it is.</p><div></div>

<p>Cool</p>

 

<p>Nice save. Many times found film has nothing so even one image is nice. </p>