agfa apx 25 black white

i have heard rumors that apx 25 is coming back or is being repackaged by

rolli,

would anybody have any update on this films comeback or replacement, thanx

mark

I heard that same rumour.

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Now let me just think about where I heard it...

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Oh yeah. <A HREF="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00JjMo&tag=">Here</A> it is.

Mark, I would try Efke 25 film. It's made in Croatia and has a high silver content like the

older films. You can get it at B&H or Freestyle. I real like it!

Joe

 

I am testing a few rolls of the Efke at the moment.... 120 and 35mm I find it pretty darn good and the 50 is not bad at all infact I find the contrast easyer to control than Panf+.

 

Larry

i've shot a fair amount of Efke 25 and 50 and it looks great developed in D-76. it is pretty

contrasty tho cause it's orthopan film, so expect more contrast that usual on a sunny day.

it's also great for shooting on overcast days. normally, you'd get flat images when it's

overcast but since efke is more sensitive to blue light... and clouds trap more blue light in

the sky, so you won't have to worry about pushing or overexposing your film to recover

any density.

 

when i was developing my own film last summer and would print it, i would put the

contrast on the enlarger around 2 1/4. when i started having the lab do my film, contrast

was around 3 - this includes ilford pan f+. when i print efke 25 or 50, i have to put the

contrast down to 1 1/2 or 1 to get a print that doesn't look extreme. so in my opinion,

expect more contrast as compared to pan f+, which is still a great film.

John-Paul

 

I find that using Diafine controls the contrast ... I shoot the 25 at 32 and the 50 at 64. Orthochromatic is a streach ... I believe it sees red... but not as much as More Modern films and alot more than Litho films.

 

Larry

TBH you would be far better off talking to Ilford about Delta 25. It is in "project" status, which means they are working on it, but have not yet made a go/no go decision about releasing it to the public.

@mark: There are NO rumours that APX25 is coming back. There are just some people who spread their phantasies over the net, and therefore this topic comes up from time to time.

 

@john-paul: There is absolutely no connection between the terms "Orthopan" and "high contrast". If your Efkes came out too contrasty, you simply developed them too long. BTW, the Efkes have a very straight curve, so they profit from a compensating developer.

 

After the demise of APX25, several distributers claimed to have a substitute; mainly Efke/Adox25 and Rolleipan 25. Both films are very different from the APX, and they only have the "25ASA" in common with the Agfa film.

 

Regards

 

Georg

Efke 25 is not Orthopan....... This is so weird that people think this ... It might be because it was once sold As ADOX ... differant name just reserected recently for some films that Efke had the Patent on....

 

Here is an Orthopan shot from real Red Blind film.

 

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The Fotokemika website (manufacturers of Efke films/papers) lists both the 25 & 50 speed films as "orthopanchromatic".

 

Nevertheless, here's a group for Efke 25 shooters:

 

 

I use it, and find it looks best in Rodinal, and printed on the Fotokemika Varycon fiber papers.

 

JMO YMMV

APX 25 is gone and will not be coming back and that's just the facts. I have also shot Efke/Adox 25 and Rolleipan 25. These films are none like APX 25. They are ok films to me. I have shot them both and like the look of them in HC-110. I rather shoot Iflord Pan F. But that's just me:-D any way.<div></div>

It's always a pleasure to look at Rothelle's work. . . :-)

i see plenty has happened since i last posted. altho the issue was addressed, i never said

efke was ortho film. i said it was orthopan film, as in orthopanchromatic, altho some

people say that orthopan is just another way of describing panchromatic film. efke's

website, as well as fotoimpex, does describe the efke 25 & 50 as orthopanchromatic and

the efke 100 and 400 as panchromatic.

 

there is also a difference between ortho film and ortho lith film. very often i see the two

terms thrown around as if they are the same. i recently shot a roll of rolei ortho 25 and

was given a choice of high contrast development or more continuous tone. i chose

continuous tone (HC 110 was used) and the guy at the lab told me that developing it high

contrast would render images with just black and whites. i think he may have been

thinking of what ortho lith film does.

 

about the way i develop my film, it certainly seems like the lab is able to develop it to a

lower contrast index as compared to when i'd do it in a small tank... maybe i was agitating

too much. i tend to use D-76 which isn't exactly a low contrast developer. the negs i've

gotten from efke in D-76 have always been pretty even, altho i'm not opposed to having a

little extra punch in certain shots.