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<p>I'll get some examples later, but I have to say between work I've done digitally and with film, people tend to lean towards the flim stuff with grain, even if they aren't aware which is which. There's just something less "sterile" and more photographic about images with grain. Digital is great in a lot of cases, ie HD video, but people seem to prefer a little edginess to my photographs in the form of grain, which none of the digital stuff will ever have.</p>

<p>Just figured I'd throw in my .02 cents.<br>

JRMM</p>

<p>Were you in a seedy area? I've been stopped by police around abandoned industrial buildings, but that's about it. Realistically I think a lot of photographers walk in to situations they just arent aware of frequently. It's hard to see what's around you with your eye in a view finder.</p>

<p>I shoot in NY subways all the time. Just don't stand around loitering. I've never been approached by anyone telling me to stop as most people notice the camera, look away and just keep moving. I'll have to print off that order though for reference just in case.</p>

<p>Thanks for your input guys. I ended up soupin the roll for the 6.5' and got great results. 7.5' might be alright for partly cloudy afternoon, in full sun it would have been way to much. I'm glad I asked though. <br>

Thanks<br>

Josh</p>

<p>Wow. Thanks for getting back to me so quick. When you look at the differences in time they go up a couple percent each time.<br>

"32-64" @ 7.5 is 12% < "125" @ 8' is 13% < "250" @ 9.75' is 25% < "500" at 13'<br>

Looking at it from a percentage stand point I think you are probably right. I think I'll dump at 6.5'.<br>

Thanks</p>

<p>I've got published times off of digitaltruth for this combo and had a couple quick questions. At 1+2 they suggest the following times for xtol for 125px.<br>

Iso<br>

32-64 -- 7.5'<br>

125 -- 8.5'<br>

250 -- 9.75'<br>

500 -- 13'<br>

Does anyone have experience pulling this stuff 2 stops? I did it because of an over abundance of light during the afternoon and for possibly a little tighter grain. There is around a 12% difference from the '32-64' to 125 times. If I shot the roll at 32 is 7.5' gonna look blown out?<br>

I guess I'm curious as to whether I might do better to decrease it by another 10% to perhaps 6.75'? or maybe around 7'? With it having been so bright, I'm just worried about it the highlights being blown as I mentioned. It was a very sunny afternoon. I guess this 32-64 business just kind of throws me for a loop. I know alot of Kodak's films they recommend not changing development when you only push one stop. Is this true for pulling? Being a 1 stop difference between 32 and 64, would 7.5 be the actual time for 32 do you think? With 64 maybe actually closer to 8'? </p>

<p>Let me know what you guys think, I'll probably hold off on developing it tonight and wait till tomorrow anyways at this point.</p>

<p>Thanks<br>

Josh</p>

<p>I know in the art world people usually assume there will be a border. Full frame. The problem with not using borders and printing a full sheet is as mentioned before you have to touch the image to mount it. Archiving images this way is unacceptable. There's no reason anything should touch the image.<br>

Another thing to consider is that some people, myself included tend to wonder if they are seeing the full frame. I like to know a person planned the photograph composition wise and that I'm seeing the full frame. I tend to think less of photographers who crop and recompose their image while printing. I understand from time to time a person must do this in printing, but at the same point I'd rather see the full frame. <br>

As mentioned though it's really probably more personal preference. If you are printing commercially for people looking for an "art" image, you can print it to whatever specs they request. I however would still leave a border around the image one way or another. It can be a real nasty trying to mount something with the borders cut off already... Alot of people will mount their images before sale to avoid these hassles. Just because the client wants something one way doesn't mean you have to sell it that way. You are the artist.. At the same point if the money's green and you need it in your pocket now, go ahead and work with the person. </p>