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<p>(A quick word to say that if anyone wants to start the thread before I get here, they are very welcome! )</p> <p>It's the usual selection of pictures taken with your Sony/Minolta gear, digital or film, to a maximum of 3 photos.</p> <p>Not much in the way of new stuff from me, but to kick off here's a picture I took in June at the Rutherford Appleton Labs in Oxfordshire as part of their photowalks: liquid nitrogen induced condensation on equipment in their cryogenics facility:</p> <p><a title="Liquid nitrogen /1 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3887/14752099163_88b0162707_c.jpg" alt="Liquid nitrogen /1" width="800" height="535" /></a><br> NEX-7 and SEL 55-210 zoom at 210mm</p> <p>The bulk of my pictures from Arles are still be sorted and selected, but here's one of a late-afternoon street view with the late-afternoon sun catching the street lamps:</p> <p><a title="The streets of Arles /1 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5552/14660231436_185361d010_c.jpg" alt="The streets of Arles /1" width="534" height="800" /></a></p> <p>NEX-7 and SEL 18-55; in-camera 'rich tone monochrome'</p> <p>Finally, there was a christening at a church near where we were staying ...</p> <p><a title="Arles christening by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5556/14662193812_6e12630fc2_c.jpg" alt="Arles christening" width="800" height="600" /></a></p> <p>NEX-7 and SEL 55-210</p>

<p>Nice one, Randy, and thanks for keeping this weekly photo thread going for so long - much appreciated.</p> <p>I have time for just one today, a picture taken in Arles, France:</p> <p><a title="The streets of Arles /4 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2939/14496778357_eb69082ab6_c.jpg" alt="The streets of Arles /4" width="800" height="534" /></a></p> <p>The eyes have it: painted bollards on a pedestrianised street in Arles (NEX-7 and SEL 18-55 zoom)</p>

I'm out and about as well - on a trip to the south of France by train. I'm staying in Arles and will take the opportunity to visit the big photography exhibitions that are on this year. My pictures are not of the exhibition but some of the sights here. <br><br> The photography exhibition takes over the town and spawns a number of opportunistic activities. Here a pop-up stall sells scraps of old photos under the name, Wild Vintage Photography<br> <a href=" title="Wild Vintage Photography by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14458615638_d70e5f9b84_c.jpg" width="534" height="800" alt="Wild Vintage Photography"></a><br> <br>^ NEX-7 with SEL 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6<br> <br>On the main square, La Place de la Republic, a street 'colloidion artist' took portraits and developed to tinotype in about 10 minutes, using his portable studio ... <br><a href=" title="Tinotype street photography by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2908/14643224224_fa258cf681_c.jpg" width="800" height="534" alt="Tinotype street photography"></a> <br>^ NEX-7 with SEL 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6<br><br> <br>Finally, in the St Trophime church on the square there was this damaged 17C wall monument to a former archbishop. Clearly on judgment day everything was gong to be all right for this guy, with an angel dispatched to lift the lid on the sarcophagus and let the man out. <br><a href=" title="C17 wall monument, St Trophime, Arles by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3918/14467011299_d4c99132ac_c.jpg" width="741" height="800" alt="C17 wall monument, St Trophime, Arles"></a> <br>Two-frame photomerge in Autostitch and post-processed in Snapseed, all on an iPad.

<p>It's back to film this week for me as a number of rolls I had processed at a lab came back to me.</p> <p>Back in June I went on a photowalk at a big science lab in Oxfordshire and although most of the pictures I took were with the NEX-7, this one was with the Minolta Autocord:</p> <p><a title="Cryogenics group /film by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/14550685942_17f92f71ef_c.jpg" alt="Cryogenics group /film" width="800" height="788" /></a><br> ^ Kodak Ektar 100 film (more medium format shots in the Classic Manual Camera forum)</p> <p>The Headington Festival happened in the local park on 1 June:</p> <p><a title="Balloons by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14581528945_d6d9a962a5_c.jpg" alt="Balloons" width="533" height="800" /></a><br> ^ Agfaphoto 200 Vista Plus / Dynax 9 / AF xi 35-200 zoom</p> <p>And in the last week of May it was the Summer Eights on the river, this from the second race in the Women's Division II competition:</p> <p><a title="Oxford Summer Eights 2014 /7 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3902/14394919108_f13506fd4c_c.jpg" alt="Oxford Summer Eights 2014 /7" width="800" height="532" /></a><br> ^ Agfaphoto 200 Vista Plus / Dynax 9 / AF xi 35-200 zoom</p>

<p>My three were taken with a Minolta Autocord and Kodak Ektar 100 film</p> <p><a title="Stone Overlap / Tom Stogdon by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2898/14364996608_d129f24c9e_c.jpg" alt="Stone Overlap / Tom Stogdon" width="800" height="788" /></a></p> <p>^ Stone overlap by Tom Stogdon at On Form 2014, Asthall, Oxfordshire</p> <p><a title="Sydling's analogue bluebells /1 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/14565550262_a9f2e2a4b4_c.jpg" alt="Sydling's analogue bluebells /1" width="800" height="788" /></a></p> <p>^ A carpet of bluebells at Sydlings Copse, near Oxford, April 2014</p> <p><a title="Sydling's analogue bluebells /2 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2916/14379693150_8ab5b9b4b1_c.jpg" alt="Sydling's analogue bluebells /2" width="800" height="788" /></a></p> <p>^ Permissive footpath</p>

<p>Film Friday?</p>

<p>Moving on from last week, here is a view from Mont St Michel north to the coast, showing the new approach route under construction</p> <p><a title="View north from Le Mont St Michel by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3866/14322035840_e0074d67fc_c.jpg" alt="View north from Le Mont St Michel" width="800" height="384" /></a><br> (NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8; two-frame pano)</p> <p>Poppies in a field nearby</p> <p><a title="Normandy poppies by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5501/14332485017_13b4223ce7_c.jpg" alt="Normandy poppies" width="800" height="270" /></a><br> (NEX-7 and SEL 55-210)</p> <p>Finally the church dedicated to St Ronan at Locornan in Brittany</p> <p><a title="St Ronan church by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14517922192_20f781540f_c.jpg" alt="St Ronan church" width="800" height="800" /></a><br> (NEX-7, Sigma 30/2.8; 4-frame photomerge)</p>

<p>Randy, I did try an attachable loupe-style finder for the NEX-3 that enabled you to use the camera at eye-level. I'll see if I can find a link to the product page. It's a bit Heath-Robinson in approach but treated with care can help address the issues of using the LCD in bright light.</p> <p>I have been travelling so am late with photos. I spent a week mostly in Brittany, but started in Normandy with a visit to Le Mont St Michel - here is a famous view as a two-frame panorama</p> <p><a title="Le Mont St Michel by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2932/14314501029_3b2c71550b_c.jpg" alt="Le Mont St Michel" width="800" height="338" /></a><br> (NEX-7 and SEL 55-210 zoom)<br> I had had some photos selected for an open-air exhibition in the town of Landerneau; here one inhabitant looks at a picture I took of Iford Manor near Bradford on Avon in England.</p> <p><a title="Iford Manor photo exhibited in France by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3898/14314437938_8c877f13d1_c.jpg" alt="Iford Manor photo exhibited in France" width="537" height="800" /></a><br> (That's the biggest print I have ever seen of one of my pictures.) (NEX-7 and SEL 18-55 zoom)<br> Prior to setting off to France the previous weekend we visited westernmost Oxfordshire and Kelmscott Manor, the former home of William Morris. The last picture is a view of the Manor skyline.</p> <p><a title="Kelmscott skyline by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5483/14248910867_a060e38018_c.jpg" alt="Kelmscott skyline" width="800" height="448" /></a></p> <p>NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8</p>

<p>Kelmscott sky<br> <a title="Kelmscott sky by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2939/14434217634_a07c350d58_b.jpg" alt="Kelmscott sky" width="1024" height="687" /></a><br> NEX-7, SEL 16/2.8</p> <p>(David - on the assumption you are familiar with using HTML on this site, the procedure on Flickr is to go to a photo's page, click on the share icon (A square with an arrow coming out), select HTML below the various service icons, picture size from the drop down, and HTML again below the box of code, copy the code and embed it in the HTML page creator here.)</p>

<p>Nice catch Randy - those classic cars are quite lush!</p> <p>I'm a bit behind on my photos so I have to show a couple more from the science lab photowalk a couple of weeks ago, and one taken on my wife's bridge camera. It's not SLR or mirrorless, but it is a Sony ...</p> <p><a title="Tubes by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5318/14378039973_479709b5e2_b.jpg" alt="Tubes" width="1024" height="685" /></a></p> <p>^ Some tubes lying on the ground at the Rutherford Appleton Lab (NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8)</p> <p><a title="Lifting hook by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2933/14354541071_32b74a17cd_b.jpg" alt="Lifting hook" width="686" height="1024" /></a></p> <p>^ A lifting hook, also at the RAL (NEX-7 and SEL 55-210 zoom)</p> <p><a title="Photo-op by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2929/14207712828_4f165da1bb_b.jpg" alt="Photo-op" width="1024" height="770" /></a></p> <p>^ Photo-op - at the On Form sculpture exhibition at Asthall Manor (the subject is a sculpture) (Sony HX-300) </p>

<p>Abib, snap!</p> <p><a title="Shhhh by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/14081642468_a8d7b1babc_b.jpg" alt="Shhhh" width="1024" height="687" /></a> NEX-7</p>

<p>Ha! With your username I thought you might be Captain Picard ...</p>

<p>I hesitate to ask how you were dressed, Patrick ... ;-)</p>

<p>Portal</p> <p><a title="Portal by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5198/14171194019_b48cdbbd6e_b.jpg" alt="Portal" width="1024" height="1024" /></a><br> NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8</p>

<p>Welcome to the E-mount, Randy! My first NEX was the 3 and I found it a capable little camera. If you are interested in trying E-mount adapters (and manual exposure and focus of lenses) they can be had inexpensively.</p> <p>This week I went on a photowalk at a national science facility (the Rutherford Appleton Lab). The group I was in was sent to some gloomy buildings where the science was interesting and the subject matter less photogenic.</p> <p><a title="No unauthorised entry by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3879/14334753226_1cb0d82967_b.jpg" alt="No unauthorised entry" width="1024" height="1024" /></a><br> ^ No unauthorised entry (NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8)</p> <p><a title="Planck satellite component by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5472/14321891836_93ab53824e_b.jpg" alt="Planck satellite component" width="1024" height="682" /></a><br> ^ A prototype of a part of the Planck satellite (it does experiments at 4 degrees above absolute zero) (NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8) </p> <p><a title="World Data Centre by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3896/14153182288_7befbe20f0_b.jpg" alt="World Data Centre" width="682" height="1024" /></a><br> ^ I like to think they keep the Internet behind this door (NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8)</p>

<p>On the banks of the Seine</p> <p><a title="On the banks of the Seine by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5574/14293641755_1a0a40b88a_c.jpg" alt="On the banks of the Seine" width="800" height="540" /></a><br> NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8</p>

<p>Some more from my recent trip to Paris:</p> <p><a title="Making them uniform by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3824/14092022947_8d5fc1bccc_c.jpg" alt="Making them uniform" width="800" height="537" /></a></p> <p>^ Children on a school trip; they don't wear uniforms so the little green hats helps the minders keep on eye on <em>their </em>charges (NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8)</p> <p><a title="Photographer by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/14106950649_8792137d55_c.jpg" alt="Photographer" width="537" height="800" /></a></p> <p>^ Capturing the local landmarks (NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8)</p> <p><a title="Shhhh by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/14081642468_a8d7b1babc_c.jpg" alt="Shhhh" width="800" height="537" /></a></p> <p>^ Shhhh! (NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8)</p>

<p>I visited Paris for a couple of days this week.</p> <p>It rained, hard.</p> <p><a title="Souvenir of Paris #1 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/14249703751_10b09a8811_c.jpg" alt="Souvenir of Paris #1" width="537" height="800" /></a><br> ^ NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8</p> <p>For some it was all too much</p> <p><a title="Souvenir of Paris #4 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2911/14066436957_c5e735d578_c.jpg" alt="Souvenir of Paris #4" width="800" height="537" /></a><br> ^ NEX-7 and Sigma E 30/2.8</p> <p>But best of all there was a major Henri Cartier-Bresson retrospective on at the Centre Pompidou - 500 photos spanning a life in photography and art.</p> <p><a title="HCB by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2931/14266189942_def90e011c_c.jpg" alt="HCB" width="800" height="800" /></a></p> <p>^ NEX-7 and SEL 16/2.8</p> <p>(Visiting Madrid, Rome and Mexico in the coming year.)</p>

<p>I've been busy preparing for an exhibition here in Oxford's Artweeks. Together with two friends we have taken over the walls of a cafe and a bike showroom in the centre of town and we have put on a little show, <em>City of Dreaming Tyres</em>. So no new photos this week, but here are a few oldies that are viewable in the show.</p> <p><a title="Yet another Halfords cycling photomerge by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7233/7297247602_7a150c250f_c.jpg" alt="Yet another Halfords cycling photomerge" width="800" height="436" /></a><br> ^ Cycling photomerge: in 2012 a pro race tour came to Oxford. This photomerge of four shots kept the lead rider and left the peloton behind (Sony A100 and Tamron 28-300 zoom)</p> <p><a title="Radcliffe Square by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7443/12825015634_e620710b19_c.jpg" alt="Radcliffe Square" width="502" height="800" /></a><br> ^ Radcliffe & Brasenose: a photomerge of slightly overlapping frames (NEX-7 and W.Rokkor 35mm f/2.8)</p> <p><a title="Riding the cycle path by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2035/13072310654_ff2326821d_c.jpg" alt="Riding the cycle path" width="552" height="800" /></a><br> ^ Riding the cycle path - flooded cycle path taken with Minolta 3000i, 35-80 zoom, and Agfaphoto 200 film</p>

<p>Those fish remind me of the beginning of Monty Python's Meaning of Life, Randy.<br> Back to film for me this week - good old 'Poundland' Agfaphoto 200 film (£1 a roll, fresh) in a Minolta Dynax 9 with the 35-200 xi zoom.</p> <p><a title="Magdalen Street /mono by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5232/14125036846_833bc79322_c.jpg" alt="Magdalen Street /mono" width="800" height="537" /></a><br> ^ St Mary Magdalen churchyard in the centre of Oxford</p> <p><a title="Magdalen Street /2 by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7429/13961588620_80b17ae647_c.jpg" alt="Magdalen Street /2" width="800" height="537" /></a><br> ^ The overgrown churchyard attracted a lot of attention from photographers</p> <p><a title="Tulips by Howard Stanbury, on Flickr" href=" src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2933/14147347575_7f20156f7e_c.jpg" alt="Tulips" width="800" height="537" /></a><br> ^ Meanwhile, out in the county, there was a fine display of tulips at an open garden.</p>

<p>(If they don't have one, that is.) <br /><br /> <a title="Leica C11, closed by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2814/9240196001_b7d37ce010_c.jpg" alt="Leica C11, closed" width="800" height="536" /></a> <br /><br /> The red dot, the famous and iconic logo, that cursive script. It's all there on the latest addition to my collection; and the thing is, the camera was a steal – 20 pounds/30 dollars on eBay from a seller a few miles down the road in the next county. <br /><br /> A quick search on photo.net shows a singular lack of interest in this little old lady. Someone tried teasing interest in the Leica group a few years ago, but to no avail, there was studied silence, tumbleweed even. <br /><br /> And of course it is not surprising. The Leica C11 was Leica's only step into the failed APS film format, a simple point and shoot that was launched at the 2000 Photokina. There was a Q&A panel and the question was asked, <em>The APS market seems an incongruous one for Leica, why?</em> <br /><br /> The answer – and there was no more reported discussion – was, <em>We will certainly concentrate on 35mm but we have to decide what to do in the compact market. We wanted a small compact camera with the features that are in the new C11 and found we could not make that in 35mm, so we knew we could in the APS size. The consumer's perspective is different to ours here, They go into a shop and largely buy a camera on looks, some really don't care who has made the camera, it will also bring new people to the Leica family.</em> <br /><br /> So here I am more than a decade later a (fully ?) fledged member of that family, on the lowest of low rungs. Given the lack of interest in the manufacturer's forum, and the recent discussions of APS cameras here under Modern Film Cameras, this seems the natural place to present this camera. <br /><br /> Back in May, Rick Drawbridge did a nice presentation on the Fujifilm Fotonex 1000ix Tiara (<a href="/bboard/”http:/photo.net/modern-film-cameras-forum/00bgSe”">here</a>), and I have one of those for comparison: <a title="Tiara and C11 side by side by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7434/9263120817_90a54167e2_c.jpg" alt="Tiara and C11 side by side" width="800" height="566" /></a> <br /><br />The Fuji was launched a year earlier and is, I would say, the more attractive camera – credit-card sized (the C11 is closer to the iPhone), if you ignore the thickness, while the Leica offers a zoom lens. The Leica's translucent plastic carry box is laughable compared to the Fuji's soft leather. I haven't been able to pin down the launch price of the Leica, but the Fuji was $350+ in 1999. I have seen a price of $250 on the Leica a couple of years after launch. The Fuji has lost more value, but it is the better camera in my opinion. <br /><br />The Leica feels like any other premium Japanese compact point-and-shoot in use, with fiddly buttons to set dates and times or switch modes. I'd expect the product of a German camera company to be more substantial but I guess this was put together for Leica by a Japanese company (Fuji perhaps?), rather like Panasonic work with them now.<br /><br /> <a title="Leica C11 rear by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3729/9240183851_c63051541f_c.jpg" alt="Leica C11 rear" width="800" height="520" /></a> <br /><br /> The C11 offers a 23-70mm (35-105 equivalent) 1:4.8-1:9.5 aspheric seven-element zoom lens, shutter speeds of 1 – 1/600s, and an 'infrared scanning type autofocus'. Focus is from 60cm to infinity and a self-timer button offers the option of 1, 2, or 3 exposures at the end of the set time. Mid-roll change (MRC) is possible with the camera, an option that seems quaint now given the limited choices in film. Similarly, as I rarely order prints, I work with the camera in its native H mode (16:9) rather than the cropped C (4:3) and P (3:1) modes. <br /><br /> The built in flash is guide number 9 and the camera can be set in a number of modes to utilise or suppress the flash with or without red-eye reduction. One of these modes also sets the focus to infinity. <br /><br /> Using the camera, the slowness of the tele end of the zoom was a problem, often resulting in camera shake (my technique could be at fault too, but a bit of shade, an f/9.5 aperture don't help). In bright sun and a wide zoom the results were far more satisfactory. Here are some samples – all on Kodak Advantix Ultra 200. <br /><br /><a title="Old Headington, St Andrews churchyard by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/9240187689_a49c3a1575_c.jpg" alt="Old Headington, St Andrews churchyard" width="459" height="800" /></a><br />1 <br /><br /><a title="St Andrews church by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5341/9242967032_9a46e3c534_c.jpg" alt="St Andrews church" width="459" height="800" /></a><br />2 <br /><br /><a title="St Andrews roof and tower by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5470/9240184891_2a5cc013e8_c.jpg" alt="St Andrews roof and tower" width="800" height="459" /></a><br />3 <br /><br /><a title="Roses by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3716/9242969732_77508e6848_c.jpg" alt="Roses" width="800" height="459" /></a><br />4 <br /><br /><a title="Waiting at Harcourt Arboretum by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/9242972388_df4b144159_c.jpg" alt="Waiting at Harcourt Arboretum" width="459" height="800" /></a><br />5 <br /><br /><a title="Camera shaken peacock by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2892/9242974482_94be725968_c.jpg" alt="Camera shaken peacock" width="800" height="459" /></a><br />6 – camera shake! <br /><br /><a title="A peek behind the display by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3800/9240194097_c9761a46a4_c.jpg" alt="A peek behind the display" width="800" height="459" /></a><br />7 <br /><br /><a title="Inquiring peacock by FlickrDelusions, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanbury/9240190317/"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/9240190317_242cb2b94a_c.jpg" alt="Inquiring peacock" width="800" height="459" /></a><br />8<br> <br /><br />So, is this the camera the stuff of dreams? No, not really. It does an adequate job but does no justice to the Leica brand. It's no surprise it disappeared when the APS film tide went out and Leica moved on to design some new compact 35mm film cameras to take its place. Somebody else can tell us about those!</p>