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Haha, good guess! But I'm doubtful whether any 'lovers' would have survived this length of time.

Long-term parking (minimum of 3 days).

Love it!

I'm an amateur musician (sax - pretty close to clarinet) so of course, I looked up the title of the song on the poster. This Hungarian tune is full of life! A great poster!

Looks delicious!

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There are no rules as to how you apply your post-processing to this image; but, please let us know what you have done so we can all learn. If you would like to post a candidate image next week, please ensure it is of sufficiently high resolution for manipulation by the participants (3000px on the long side, 300dpi for example). Most of all, let's have fun while we are learning or demonstrating how we use our post-processing software, imaginations and interpretations. Mike

I really like this photo a lot! The dramatic cloud texture and tones are visually attractive and make up an important part of the ''story'. I think the composition is wonderful with the diagonally curved water and hide tide lines and the repeating 'objects'. Notably the two high chairs but (visually) I also include the driftwood in the foreground and the small figure walking in the background in the same ''visual series', I like the way the darker high tide line leads up the the contrasting darker 'wedge' on the right hand side. I also like the contrast between the white chairs and the darker background. The many 'leading lines' in the photo give it great depth. The 'story' I read into the photo is that when the weather is cloudy/rainy (sky), the beach is deserted. Some kind of story helps to strengthen the integration between the different elements in the photo. The 'story' makes the photo more than just a 'nice/interesting beach scene'. The photo has - for me - an 'artistic quality' and I can well imagine it being part of a series with similar photos of other beaches. Congrats to the photographer on a very fine photo!

I really do love the very creative 'takes' on this photo! Ones that I never could have imagined, so my sincere thanks for these - they're wonderful! Like @michaellinder, I'm unable to join in the fun for the next 2 weeks. I'm in the UK (vacation) and I have access to a 3-year old PC that performs as if it was 5 years older;). So I don't have access to any off-line PP software for the next 2 weeks. I loaded a couple of photos onto a USB stick (including this one) to post if no-one else did. I guess I could try my hand at on-line PP but that's not something I want to spend vacation-time on:)

There are no rules as to how you apply your post-processing to this image; but, please let us know what you have done so we can all learn. If you would like to post a candidate image next week, please ensure it is of sufficiently high resolution for manipulation by the participants (3000px on the long side, 300dpi for example). Most of all, let's have fun while we are learning or demonstrating how we use our post-processing software, imaginations and interpretations. Mike

I've no experience of this problem, I sometimes edit a Lightroom (RAW) photo in PhotoShop which (as @digitaldog mentions) results in a .tiff file in Lightroom. As far as I know, the meta-date in the .tiff file is preserved. I've never used DNG.

Many thanks for these videoclips @samstevens! The more I read and watch videos about Gordon Parks, the more I realize what a remarkable, authentic, and multi-talented person he was. Three things remain with me: - he channeled all his anger and frustration from his upbringing into something positive - he took photos that he preferred not to have taken but did so anyway because he felt that they were important - he remained relatively 'humble' about his contribution to (video)photography I assume that his photo reportages in 'Time magazine' did much to 'humanize' the experience of Black people living in the US. However, I read that the subtitles of his photos were skewed toward the pre-conceptions of White middle-class readers. It says a lot for Gordon Parks that he still continued to contribute to Time Magazine.

Hi Sam, I like your phrase "where some conception in addition to perception took place". I fully agree with all your words on 'the flow'. However (just based on my own experience) there are times when I'm just walking around and fully open to my surroundings and my mood when something catches my eye. I might quickly adjust the frame (feet/zoom) and aperture but - as you say - this doesn't bring me out of the 'flow' of being where I am and what I find interesting about whatever is in the frame. So taking photos does enhance 'seeing'. I'm not fixated on the photo or getting a 'perfect shot', just capturing whatever interests me. There are other times (on 'voluntary assignments') when I'm much more focused on getting 'good' shots. I stay aware of whatever is going on (at a performance, market, meeting, interview, etc.) but my 'flow' is much more photographic and more intentional/deliberate. I take almost all my 'people photos' in a burst mode of 4-7 shots with the intention of selecting just one from any 'burst' that best captures movements and expressions. This is probably my version of 'conception in addition to perception'. For these subjects/situations, I have a good idea in advance about the kind of photos I want to capture. Things change so I have to be flexible. Still, changing lenses (zoom focal lengths) 'on the fly' does temporarily bring me out of the 'flow'. I suspect (but I have no evidence) that some amateur photographers do tend to get fixated on 'taking great photos' in a certain style at the expense of being truly open to whatever their surroundings have to offer. And I agree that "Seeing and photographing can be symbiotic". FWIW, I yesterday took some photos at a weekly 'Fit For Life' session: Fit for Life is a local program that encourages and enables 'seniors' to retain their fitness and mobility. It was a wonderful experience! Most participants were 65+ and a few were 90+. I joined in (aged 67 years) with the 'warming up' (10 mins) and I was tired and sweating towards the end! My intention was to capture their enthusiasm and pleasure as participants through 'action photos'. For me, this photoshoot was a good example of 'conception in addition to perception'. During the session. I had a 'concept' (action photo) in mind but I still had to remain constantly aware of what was going on.

I agree with what's been said. The phrase 'mindful' (or contemplative or slow) photography springs to mind. Google tuns up various articles about this but in essence, I think that it means staying fully present in your surroundings and yourself 'in the present moment' without prejudice or judgment. Something I very rarely do btw! I think that @michaellinder is right that the step 'setting up a photo' (camera settings, etc.) can interrupt the flow of experience and perception. That's why some articles recommend just taking one-click photos with a phone or preset camera settings. And also just 'noticing' when walking without even taking a camera along. I remember watching this of portrait photographer Platon. Although he has a professional team and setup he always somehow stays 'in the flow'. Both in his engagement with his subjects and in his photography.

+1 for all the above comments. Nothing to add.

I'd never heard of Gordon Parks so thanks for bringing his work to my attention. From what I've read and seen, his photography rightly deserves (inter)national attention. I found this WP article a good introduction to his work. It also includes a link to his 'virtual views' page at the MOMA.

Just one more thing, Matt. Though I know that many other members disapprove, I believe that the binary "likes" (or not) are outdated. In practice (IHMO) a ''like' v

FWIW, before creating my arty (painting) version, I also tried out the new PS Neural Filter (beta) 'Landscape Mixer' filter. But I wasn't happy with the results for this photo and decided to go 'manual'. Perhaps a Topaz 'Clean' followed by the PS Neural Filter (beta) 'Landscape Mixer' filter might have yielded better results.

+ 1 @Sanford! IMHO, it's worth making a distinction between the 'good photos' that you personally like and are proud of but that arouse little interest amongst others. I definitely have at least 2-3 which I personally think (at least for me) are' good photos'. But on various forums, no one else is interested. The (self-invented!) term 'photographic compass' springs to mind, There are photographers who just do their thing, independently of what anyone else thinks. Other photographers are more sensitive to constructive feedback from peers and viewers. My (really) 'bad' photos are the ones for which I: - forget to change my exposure settings, almost always ISO. So they either turn out seriously underexposed or (more often) seriously overexposed and blown out - forget to allow enough time for the auto-focus to kick in, leading to blurry photos Most of my (amateur) photos are of people, sports, action, etc. I take almost all of these in 'burst mode'. So I know in advance that of any 'burst' of 5-6 'shots', only one will (for me) best capture the exact moment/expression. That's not to say that the one selected shot (for me = ' a photo') in any burst is interesting, well-framed, or that the 'photo' is any better than any other selected 'photos' from the same photoshoot. As a complete amateur, it's a labor of love to quickly discard the 'bad' (under- or overexposed) shots, then select the "photos" from 5-6 times as many 'burst shots' and finally select my "best photos" from these. My 'process' is time-consuming and it would be impossible to make any money from this! But you're right that this 'process' happens (secretly) behind the scenes and the photos that I (as a volunteer) deliver or publish are but a small percentage (probably around 12% - 15%) of the total number of (selected) photos.

No, no secrets,

An arty (painting) version: - curves - 'brush strokes' in PS filter gallery - Topaz 'Clean' filter - horizontal 'wave' to make trees less straight - 'linnen' pattern overlay

Wonderful to hear! We have a lot in common and should perhaps move to PM's :). I think your nephew and his wife made the right choice too! My youngest daughter was just 10 when she was offered a place at the prestigious 'Dutch National Ballet Academy' in Amsterdam - 100 km away from where we lived as the crow flies. At the time, my initial reaction was 'over my dead body!' because I could predict how this would affect her childhood. But she really had her heart set on it and we eventually decided to try it out. We made arrangements beforehand with her local school that she could always re-join if things in Amsterdam didn't work out. My ex-wife or I woke her every day at 06.15 and between us drove her to the nearest 'main' train station (30 mins). It then took her an hour to get to school. Then either my ex-wife or I would pick her up again in the evening. So basically, she was traveling 3 hours a day to get to the school she wanted to be at. And our family life was pretty much regimented around the 'travel times'. And of course, things occasionally went wrong (cancellations, snow/ice on the rails, etc.). For her dance/drama/vocals degree, she moved to Amsterdam and has stayed there since. She was around 20 when she first acted in a regional film production and she only began modeling/acting/dancing/presenting professionally after she graduated aged 21. She by no means had a 'normal' childhood because dance & travel took up all her time and energy. But it was something that she - of her own free will - wanted to keep doing. Her only performances were arranged by her ballet school. Two conflicting thoughts regularly went through my mind at the time. One was "How differently might have you become if you hadn't dedicated yourself so completely to dance?" and "Who am I to stand in the way of the natural talent that my daughter has and passionately wants to develop?". She's turned out fine, btw! As you say, dance/drama is a difficult business to get into and a 'backup plan' is indeed advisable! Although my daughter was well-qualified, she decided that she preferred not (immediately) to become a dance/drama teacher. She's pretty smart and - during the Covid period - she worked 2-3 days a week as an administrative assistant for arts subsidies. In the past, she happily smiled and handed out badges at conferences to get some income. I'm pretty sure that should her 'artistic career' begin to fade, she'll find something else. I love the fact that your niece is a budding photographer and that you're mentoring her (another possible fall-back occupation :) ) Mike PS on 'life paths', I decided 45 years ago to live and work in Norway for a year. I loved the country and I wanted to get some 'international experience'. Norway - despite a couple of interviews - didn't pan out and I was offered a job with a great small company in NL. At the time, I thought: well NL's OK too, it's just for a year. 45 years later I'm still here! My great niece loves theatre. She has been approached over the years to do modelling and acting in commercials. Her parents decided against it because they saw how others her age were robbed of a normal childhood. People we know told the parents to be prepared that her modelling and acting will totally take over the family’s life to the exclusion of just about everything else. I think my nephew and his wife made the right decision. She’s now at an age where she can explore her creative talents with a solid childhood behind her. I’m training her as a budding photographer, first with all the basics of film, then onto digital. I’m a retired astronomer so I have all the time in the world to mentor her along before I croak. I have no children so she will inherit tens of thousands of dollars worth of incredible Leica gear. She has done some back-up tracks for a couple of local recording artists, just fun stuff. She understands theatre, music, photography, etc. is a tough gig to crack into, so she wisely has decided to pursue a legal education as an “insurance policy” if the creative thing doesn’t pan out. I have a law degree in both civil and canon law from Heidelberg but unexpectedly veered from my hobby of astronomy into a professional career. You never know what path life will take you.

Hi, the short answer is "no". There is a 'digital darkroom' forum and as others have said, there is a wealth of experience amongst PN members who (I suspect) would be happy to share their experience with your students. Having said that (as an exclusive digital photographer), Google turns up quite a few sites/articles on developing and post-processing photos shot on film. TBH, you students can easily find these too. I'm sure PN members that are more familiar with film development and PP would be more than happy to answer any questions that your students have!