<p>Thanks for the feedback all. I have been looking at the Nikon site for refurbs, but I can trade in my D300s bodies to B&H and and Adorama. Also, I'm not going used, I feel like a Nikon refurb is a better choice, both my D300s' are refurbs and have served me very well. <br /> Shun, I know I'm not going to the D7200, I really like the heft and configuration of the D500, much more like my D300s. Have no need for a grip, especially because I use two Spider clips attached to the front of a LowePro vest.</p>