nancy s.

Very funny Q.G.! Photos of the Lift are difficult unless you are setting the stock out (I have been doing this). However, if you are setting out stock you don't have time for photos!

 

Sometimes the sheep DO try to herd the dogs.. they will stamp their feet and (on occiasion) charge. Often they get punished for this when the dog does a grip and, sometimes, the grip is not points off! Depends on how misbehaving that sheep is!

 

The Fuji does have a crop factor. I really dislike that crop and I hate post processing images so I want to get away from digital. I really want to see what I get with the MF and the 300 lens. The thing is the lens is a bit dark and it may be just a tad short.. but that will depend on the trial location and the distances being run out.

 

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Does anyone here take photos of working stock dogs? For the uninitiated,

these dogs work sheep and cattle, often at some distance from the handler. At

trials they bring the sheep or cattle through a series of obstacles ending

with a shedding (penning) exercise and (sometimes, depending on the level)

separate one animal from the herd.

 

I have been doing some photography of these Stock handling dogs. I have a

Fuji S2 and an (older) manual focus 80-200 zoom as well as a 105 mm lens that

has been ai'd. I have taken photos with both lenses with the S2 and while

everything is manual, the photos come out fine. I also have an 8008s that

these lenses work on as well.

 

I would like to use Medium format (Mamiya 645e) as I can produce large prints

from the negatives. I have the standard (80mm lens) for the 645e and an 300

mm lens. Is the 300mm lens enough lens for this or should I be looking at

something else if I want to use Medium format to photograph this sport (or the

training sessions)? Of course, a tripod will be in use.

I have an Argus C four (mint) that was my Uncle's Camera. My Uncle was a very precision oriented man.. an Electrical Engineer for GE back in the 50's and early 60's. He used the Argus to take B&W slides which he processed and mounted himself.

 

The Argus is all American Made when such a statement was one of pride. I have no idea what is meant by describing it as clumsy. I have a Fuji S2.. and THAT is heavy AND clumsy compared to the Argus.

 

Aside from the camera being solid mechanically and therefore readily available it has American Glass. I take fine, sharp photos with this glass.. 50mm f2.8 Cintar. Personally I think it compares handliy with the German Glass for a lot less money.. and I think the snobbery associated with German Glass has made the Cintar less popular. As such, it is less expensive which is to my advantage and to yours.

I am both a fine artist (painter) and a photographer. I have used photos to insure that accuracy of something is retained in my painting (like the markings on a horse's head for a portrait).

 

There is a danger in copying a photo verbatim in that you will sometimes put things in that would be better off deleted or changed. I recall such an image of a white tail deer (oil painting). It was very good and not the usual trite deer painting.. and in the foreground was this scrubby oak tree that was likely in the original photo. The skill of the artist (this was back in the 60's) could not be argued.

 

I have found that photography (I am film based) is much more difficult to do that painting. I can control the light, the direction of light, the color of the light as well as the subject and its placement completely in a painting. I cannot do that when I take a photo. I do find I can take better photos and that I have a better eye in the view finder as I look at the image and before I press the button I say, "Would you paint this?" If it s a resounding "NO!" I back slowly away from the shutter release.

 

When I do digital work I can manipulate the thing in photo shop and I have, but most images look manipulated (including some very good ones by better computer operators than I right on this site).

 

Of course, with computers you can now take a photo and make it look like a painting complete with brush strokes, but that is a whole nother topic for a nother thread.

 

the bottom line is this:

I have never believed that photography and painting countered each other. They are two different mediums and strive to do the same things in end results, depending on the artist. Those end results range from pure art to commercial work.

 

I see no competition between them at all.

I have Kodak P&S camera that has taken some really award winning stuff. I like it a lot.. it is user friendly and is relatively simple.

 

I have a Canon at work and it is really good as well, tho I think it is excessively accessorized. It will do all sorts of stuff if you learn all the settings and make corrections based on those settings.

 

I never use them, but they are there. Fact is, the non photo pros in my office don't use all the accessories either as it takes too long to learn the book and the camera.. and all they want to do is take a picture of something. I get to post process it if they aren't happy with it. :/

What Doug said.. lights are distractions in the deli shot (#1) and the overhang draws your eye in number 2. Escalator is fine. Platform shot is fine. The remainder is non descript.

To determine if this is CA or flare, why not use a filter that removes red (since red is usually the culprrit) and retake the photos?

I think I will try for it... tho with working and it soon to be dark when I leave and when I get home, except for weekends it will be a challenge.

Advice being worht what you pay I like it.. however, for the posed shots you could need to learn better ways to set up the bride so she doesn't appear as wide (no woman wants to appear wide.. EVER!).

 

I would suggest you turn people 45 dgrees to the film plane. Have the women put their weight on the foot furthest from the camera. This helps the 3-D person look thinner on the 2-D medium.

 

If you want to really learn posing, and I suggest to every wedding photographer that they do, go to Joe Zeltsmans Free Portait lessons. A lot of good material there.

Last Sunday I had some photos I had to deliver (on a CD). It wasn't a big job but it was 87 images that were digital. Two hours later I had what I felt were decent CD's. I had both full size images that had been post processed and their smaller cousins in case the client wanted to emial etc.

 

while I was sitting at the computer, the sun came up over the ridge and it was just beautiful out.. but there was me.. fussing with Photoshop. I could have been outdoors SHOOTING! Nope.. had to get this job out.

 

Usually I shoot film. I do have a B&W wet chemistry DR in my basement for that stuff.. but the color stuff I give to a pro lab to do and it comes back scanned and really very nice. I like what I get and like the results.. and if digital is desired I can get the negs scanned at whatever resolution I want to (for a price of course!).

 

Best of all, I don't have to sit at the DARN computer on a lovely evening or morning fussing away with this stuff.

I don't ahve to worry over back ups and extra hard drives... all I need is a file cabinet and storage.. and I am good to go.

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You can send me the money and I will buy you a proper kit... :)

 

Conrad's suggestion, especially with regards to the second body, is good.

 

Do you have a flash bracket to get the flash off the camera? If not, you should have one and the cord that goes between the flash and the camera.

uhh.. very loose?

If I had a huge inventory or used film cameras that was losing value at double digit DEflation rates, I too would proclaim that my product, or its basis, was not dead. I would proclaim it to all.

 

Like the last manuafacturer of buggy whips you have told me about so many times... He was the last so he had the market cornered. And those, like my long dead relative, who thought the car was a passing fancy, were stocking up on that guy's whips!

You can use your SB 24 as a slave or as a master.

 

I am assuming you are using optical triggers for the slave unit and this is on a stand?

 

The nice thing about the SB 24 on the hot shoe is you can use this as your fill light and the SB800 as your key light and give some nice dimensional lighting to your subjects.

I don't know about Kites attacking.. think it is unlikely... most wildlife leave humans alone and leave when we show up due to previous bad experiences with humans.

 

My Father was chased out of a field by an angry wood chuck once. It was spring and she had her babies out of the den for the first time. We were walking along the hedgerow and she took a dislike to my Dad. Wood chucks can GROWL and HUFF! She did both.. and he was dancing around trying to defend himself with a fly rod. It was pretty amusing and both my Dad and the woodchuck went their ways unharmed.

I have been to the SW US many many times. I always bring with me more camera equipment than I can use. :)

 

Bring both camera bodies with you and a bunch of lenses. When you go hiking out take one body and the lenses (but no redundant lenses). That is how I did it and I was shooting mostly film.

 

I used to bring a P&S with me too. I produced a DVD of my various trips out to the SW and fully 80% of the photos on the DVD were taken with my little Kodak DX 4900...... It is light and handy and sometimes absolutely perfect for grabbing a shot!

You simply exceeded the synch speed of the shutter. This is easy to diagnose because of the placement of the lighter portion of the frame in your exposures from your description.

 

1/60th is it, regardless of the strobe used. You asked if the rule for synch was the same. Yes, it is. That is the short answer.

Oh a little comic relief never hurt anyone. Sometimes that is what these flip answers are.. and nothing more. Ignore them or laugh and go on.

 

Due to a recent personal medical anomoly I have been sent for a bunch of tests. The anoimoly has the potential to be quite serious (or not.. and I am banking on this). One of the tests ordered was a CAT scan. After the Tech at the lab got thru with her questions I aksed her, "Are you SURE you want to look in there?" We laughed. Way better than counter productive worry!

 

Another test required blood to be drawn. Again.. questions.. and toward the end they asked my Religious affiliation followed by asking about my next of kin! I stopped them and said, "I thought you were taking 3 vials of blood, not all of it?"

 

Laughter is healing. Laughter is healthy. Lighten up and enjoy P-Net with its knowledge base and its sometimes off beat P-Netters. Life is too shot not to laugh!

We had this discussion at a museum where I volunteer about two weeks ago. Some local fellow in the area passed away back in the 70's and he had been a local photographer. He had glass plates all archived and bundled in storage in his house. His heirs TOSSED OUT all those plates.. and there were negatives as well.. all of the local area that today would be of historical significance. All of it GONE.

 

Like the R&R song.. Shattered....

I was there in May. The Navajo are building what looks to be an observation platform (enclosed) that the visitor's center which will likely offer another view of the same scene.

 

The shots you show are taken from the visitor's center. The road in the foreground is the road you ride/drive to tour the valley environs and to access the location for horseback riding etc..

I had photos up for ratings. Seemd Ok to me. Also seemed sort of contrived since a really BAD rating won't go in.

 

Ended up taking all my photos off my gallery. On dial Up at home and such a painful process to put any back up I haven't bothered to.

 

I don't need someone else's opinion to verify what I do anyway.

Derek:

FWIW for black and white film, I process my own. It is pretty inexpensive to do in batches which is what I do.

 

Sort of OT but of the same idea:

I looked at buying a Hybrid car. I like the idea etc. but for the difference in price between a hybrid and a conventional economy car AND the cost of replacing the Hybrid Battery Pack (I keep my cars beyond their payment lives) I could buy a LOT of gas.. even if it were more than it is now. And it wasn't like the hybrid saved me that much gas over the economy car.. it only worked out for me mathematically if the hybrid burned NO gas.

 

Besides, I think the samples I saw on the website still look like noise to me.. but that is my opinion with which no one is being held up to agree with.

I have a DR in my basement. I get in there with all my stuff set up on the table in the light and then turn the light out (this way I know where stuff is).

 

I yank the cannister open with needle nose pliers, cut the leader square with scissors, feed the start of the film onto a patterson reel, ratchet that baby until I get to the spool and cut the spool off. This goes into the tank.. and since I am usually doing more thanone roll I repeat the process until I have all my rolls sealed in the tank and then proceed to the development phase of the thing.

 

I do use Patterson stuff. Works well and, with the exception of the tanks cracking sometimes, is pretty durable.

I agree with GS above. Why would you buy software to do what film will do anyway? You can buy a LOT of film for $300.....