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What I like about the ELAN 7/e so far:
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Eye relief is very good. I can compose a shot with both eyes open and
still see everything in the viewfinder. YMMV.
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Eye Control Focus (ECF) works pretty well for me, but I'm still
calibrating the 7/e. I didn't have ECF on my Elan II so I can't
compare its speed or accuracy with any other ECF version.
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Fits snugly in (my) hands. Vertical holding is very good and should be
outstanding with the vertical grip. The 7 feels more "dense" than the
Elan II, though weight is slightly less. The right side grip of the 7
protrudes less than the II's grip due to the smaller batteries used in
the 7.
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True Mirror Lock-Up. Works the same way as MLU on the EOS 3.
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The DEP mode on the 7 works the same as on the II/e. Some people
speculated that the 7 used Auto-DEP as on the Rebel 2000 (Not true.)
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Mirror black out time is mercifully short.
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The 7 is the quietest SLR I've ever used (including the original
Elan).
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The eye cup fits better than the one on my older Elan II (My Elan II's
cup was a loosey goosey.)
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Luckily, you can turn off the AF assist light; that flashing strobe
will wake the dead!
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The AE lock button has a lighter pressure level.
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Did I mention that it's quiet?
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It makes me a better photographer - NOT.
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What I don't like about the Elan 7/e so far:
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The metering modes switch of the Elan II is gone. Metering is now done
through a FUNCtion button on the back of the camera. Not nearly as
functional, in my opinion.
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The jury is out on whether the metering of the 7 is any better than
the metering on the Elan II. Checking the camera's meter against an
incident meter revealed that the 7's reflective meter MAY be
underexposing about 1 stop in all metering modes. I have not, repeat
NOT, tested the 7's meter with slide film yet.
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No IR AF assist light.
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A. What I like about the ELAN 7/e so far:
<p>
Eye relief is very good. I can compose a shot with both eyes open and
still see everything in the viewfinder. YMMV.
<p>
Eye Control Focus (ECF) works pretty well for me, but I'm still
calibrating the 7/e. I didn't have ECF on my Elan II so I can't
compare its speed or accuracy with any other ECF version.
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Fits snugly in (my) hands. Vertical holding is very good and should be
outstanding with the vertical grip. The 7 feels more "dense" than the
Elan II, though weight is slightly less. The right side grip of the 7
protrudes less than the II's grip due to the smaller batteries used in
the 7.
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True Mirror Lock-Up. Works the same way as MLU on the EOS 3.
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The DEP mode on the 7 works the same as on the II/e. Some people
speculated that the 7 used Auto-DEP as on the Rebel 2000 (Not true.)
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Mirror black out time is mercifully short.
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The 7 is the quietest SLR I've ever used (including the original
Elan).
<p>
The eye cup fits better than the one on my older Elan II (My Elan II's
cup was a loosey goosey.)
<p>
Luckily, you can turn off the AF assist light; that flashing strobe
will wake the dead!
<p>
The AE lock button has a lighter pressure level.
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Did I mention that it's quiet?
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It makes me a better photographer - NOT.
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B. What I don't like about the Elan 7/e so far:
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The metering modes switch of the Elan II is gone. Metering is now done
through a FUNCtion button on the back of the camera. Not nearly as
functional, in my opinion.
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The jury is out on whether the metering of the 7 is any better than
the metering on the Elan II. Checking the camera's meter against an
incident meter revealed that the 7's reflective meter MAY be
underexposing about 1 stop in all metering modes. I have not, repeat
NOT, tested the 7's meter with slide film yet.
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No IR AF assist light.
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Re: I don't always wear my glasses, and it would be nice to be able
to see everything in the viewfinder clearly without them.
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I just got my 7/e and was pleasantly surprised at the eye relief of
the viewfinder. I can easily keep both eyes open (and a bit away
from the eye cup) while composing and watch for subjects/movement
outside the viewfinder. This is as close as I've gotten to RF-type
viewing on an SLR. The EOS 3 and 1V may be similar in this respect.
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Re: >I'm surprised the Elan 7/7e isn't readily available yet in the
>States.
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The 7e is available from B&H and Adorama, but the first supply at B&H
was exhausted quickly. Fortunately, I got my order in early while they
were closed :)
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The BP-300 tripod socket is an off-center tripod mount.
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Colin pointed out that the seven AF points are a real asset for him.
It is one thing I hadn't really considered at the time since the ECF
on the camera I was using wasn't calibrated for my eyes. I did notice
that letting the camera choose the AF point(s) automatically seemed
to work well and went to the area(s) I would have chosen.
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Also, someone pointed out that the MLU probably works like the MLU on
the EOS 3: if you don't press the shutter/remote button a second time
w/ MLU ON, the mirror returns to its original position. I'm still
unclear on this...
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Most retailers are taking orders for the late October delivery of the
ELAN 7, but I suppose it could be later.
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FYI: [as always, the following is subject to correction by
somebody. :)]
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I just returned from looking at the ELAN 7. Below are some of my
impressions and answers for those of you who sent me questions to ask
about it. There were lots of people clamoring to use the camera (I've
got the bruises to prove it), so I couldn't calibrate or use the ECF
or check out every function.
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1. The AF assist light of the onboard flash appears to require a very
low light level to activate. We had trouble getting the AF assist to
blink even with the ISO set to 16. We had to stick the camera under a
cloth to get it to flash. There is a complicated four-setting CF (CF-
7) to turn it off completely. Situations that would activate the AF
assist would probably require one to use an external flash anyway.
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2. The Mirror Lock Up seems to be a true MLU, not pre-fire like the
ELAN II. The MLU default time is not ten seconds as we feared; the
ten second default is only when the self-timer with MLU is activated.
Normal MLU works as follows: Set MLU ON (CF5 - 1); press shutter or
remote release (RC-1 or RS60-E3). Press shutter button or release
again and shutter fires. If you don't press the shutter/remote again
within 30 seconds, shutter will fire. I hope I got this right.
Someone said the MLU works the same as MLU on the EOS 1v.
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4. Mirror black out time is mercifully brief and mirror slap has been
dampened.
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5. The Whisper Drive film advance is excellent! This baby is very
quiet. At least as quiet as the original ELAN and much quieter than
the EOS 3 or ELAN II - or even the Contax G2. Only the Hexar AF is
quieter, IMO. The PR says: "Quietest coreless motors ever in EOS
camera."
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5. The ELAN 7 uses an IR film counter. This would probably fog the
sprocket holes/border of IR film. Not a big deal.
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6. The body is smaller and a bit lighter than the ELAN II/IIe but fit
my (average size) hands well. Even with a lens mounted, it felt
considerably light to me, but it could have been the lightweight 28-
90mm lens that was on the body. The texture of the black poly. body
looked a little chintzy to me, but it was a preproduction body and
had been given lots of rough treatment by the public.
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7. Toggling through the functions for ISO, Red Eye Reduction, Beeper,
Multiple Exposures, Flash Exp. Comp., and AEB, is easy, and the icons
are displayed on the top LCD panel in a vertical row of icons. The
nice thing about this is that the last function accessed is set in
memory, so that the next time you push the FUNCtion button, the last
function used is displayed first. This lets you return to the
function you use the most, say AEB or Flash Exposure Compensation.
And, FUNCtions that are set ON always show an arrow > pointing at it.
Most of the other controls are familiar to ELAN II/IIe users and
would take little usage to become intuitive.
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8. Depth of Field preview is electronic with a dedicated switch and
works in all modes. There's no Eye Control DOF function on the ELAN
7/e.
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9. If Eye Control Focus is important to you, the PR says AF response
time is the fastest yet: 55 ms. for the 7, versus 65 ms. for the EOS
3, 220 ms. for the A2e/5 and 120 ms. for the ELAN II/e. Your mileage
may vary. The 7 also has Eye Control Servo AF and Predictive AI Servo
AF (from the EOS 1v.) I had no opportunity to test these AF modes.
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Bottom line impressions. The 7 should be a good camera for advanced
amateurs and for situations where you need to shoot discreetly like
weddings or meetings or for street shooting. This is not a
groundbreaking camera, but adds to the EOS mid-class/advance amateur
line. If I didn't have a camera in this price range, the 7 would be
my first choice for the amateur shooting I do. Since I have an ELAN
II, I'm not sure I need what the 7 offers - the camera isn't going to
make me a better photographer. But the quiet operation, light weight,
fast motor drive and improved (?) metering are tempting.
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See the Canon press release on 8/23/00 for the Elan 7 at
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Re: "420EX replaces 380EX and adds about 20 feet of GN and is a
receiver flash for wirelss from EOS-3 and Elan 7e."
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Latest news indicates that the 420EX does not have manual flash
controls but does have tilt AND swivel capability.
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Re: "Whisper Drive."
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Latest news from one source says the 7 is quieter than the A2/A2E.
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I have a feeling sticker shock will be substantial with this
camera
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Rumored street price approx. US$600. Rumored availability late
October, 2000.
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Colin,
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Do you recall how the AF points are arranged? It was reported
elsewhere that the array was different than on the Rebel 2000,
i.e., a "diamond" array, e.g., maybe
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Thanks.
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Rumor has it that the seven AF sensors are positioned in a diamond
shaped array, rather than the conventional placement on the Rebel
2000. This does seem to be a trend, as Contax is using a similar array
on the new Contax AF SLR, the N1. Time will tell...
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Doug,
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Re: "...the spot-exposure works very well."
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What do you mean by "spot-exposure?" Is there spot metering on the
Minilux or was this just a generic reference? Thanks.
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The one aspect of the T4 that I do not like is its shutter lag. It
will drive you crazy if shooting in situations where the subject is
moving or events are changing rapidly. The T2 is not much better in
this regard. Users of the Minilux say it is much better in terms of
shutter lag.
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Here's an older thread on the "T2 vs. T4" topic.
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http://www.photo.net//bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000TSn
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What is Klein up to these days? I found a site devoted to him (by him?) in France - http://www.franceweb.fr/ingirum/klein/ - but my French she not so good... Can anyone give me an update on Klein's whereabouts and/or current exhibits? Thanks.
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I like this image. The composition might be a bit tighter if cropped
to eliminate most of the street and the white space above the
building.
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<Does the camera's program know that it is an IS lens and hence alter
the "Tv" to suit?>
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No, the camera's program does not take into consideration the fact
that you have an IS lens mounted. Follow the guidelines in the IS
lens instructions. Canon states that you can safely shoot at shutter
speeds two stops slower than the reciprocal of the focal length in
use. My experience is that this is a conservative number and even
slower shutter speeds can result in good images if you use good hand
held techniques or use a monopod.
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<< there's a custom funtion on my eos-5 that prevents the automatic
flash exposure compensation in bright light conditions. Is there not
one on the elanII? >>
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No, unfortunately, the Elan II doesn't have this custom
function/feature. I wish it did - I have to use my brain instead. :)
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Both the Minox and the Ricoh have fine lenses. I have quite a bit
of experience with the GR1 - see my GR1 site at:
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http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/9273/gr1.html
or try:
http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~kennetht/GR1specs.html
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If you can live with the "Guessomatic" focusing of the Minox and
prefer the 35mm focal length, it may be more to your liking. The
Minox is quieter operating and the flash is stronger. The GR1 lens
is truly outstanding and the GR1 flash and exposure compensation
controls are the best of any P&S, IMO. I'd try them both out in a
store, if possible, and see which you prefer.
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2. Are they any differences between GT-E and GT-X other than auto DX
code?
The specs. on the <a href="http://minoxlab.com/shop/dtlgtegt.htm"> Minox Lab web site </a> state that the Minox
GT-X has an additional "snapshot setting (Green Line)." I presume
this is some sort of fixed focus setting at a relatively small
aperture and fast shutter speed. Maybe Martin or someone can explain
how this works. Anyone?
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I'd like to learn more about George's Lepp's _Natural Image_ newsletter, but there's no mention of it on his web site anymore. The site only has a message that says "Keep checking back." Anyone have a phone number for subscriptions or information? Thanks.
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There is a wildlife refuge just outside Hilton Head Island. I don't recall the name, but you can find all the details on the Fish and Wildlife web page for South Carolona at the following URL:
Upgrading from Elan 7
in Accessories
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Re: "...am I tired of hunting down information on the internet about
he Elan 7e (QD)."
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Try here and search for Elan 7:
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http://www.deja.com/[sT_rn=qs]/home_ps.shtml
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Re: "After work I am going to a camera shop to look at the EOS 3. I
read that it is noisier and heavier than the Elan 7e."
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The EOS 3 is a clacking monster compared to the Elan 7/7e.
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Re: "Checking the camera's meter against an incident meter revealed
that the 7's reflective meter MAY be underexposing about 1 stop in all
metering modes. I have not, repeat NOT, tested the 7's meter with
slide film yet."
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I did shoot some Fuji NPH (at ISO 320) in the Elan 7 and metering was
fine for Center Weighted and Evaluative modes. Next test will be slide
film.