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Tom,

Curious as to whether you have the v1 or v2 Summilux (serial above 1,845,000 or so). I know my v2 surpasses my limitations as a photographer. I'm certain the current ASPH version is a 'better' lens though, whatever that means to most individuals.

The experiment kinda makes me want to duct tape mine to my Questar though.

Best,

Jerry

Oops, Forgot the Tri-Elmar.

Jerry

63 years old. Middleaged? Don't think I'll make it to 126.

M's?-2,3,7, and a NIB M6 HM if anybody out there is interested in one.

Leica Lenses? 24, 3-35s, 40, 4-50s, 4-90s, 135, 200.

Have a D2, but can't really figure out PS very well, so use it mainly for e-mailing shots to the kids. No M8 in my future.

Summary-TDM (too damn many) bodies and lenses. Might make the heirs happy though.

Jerry

Not a bad lens. Small, and about the lightest Leica 90 around.

However, carries with it the collectors price as not many made. The best price/performance f/4 Leica 90 is probably the CL version.

Jerry

"The overall design of the camera will be different....."

I would suspect so, (but wish it wouldn't be). What I think escapes us is the realization that this camera will be totally battery operated, and it will require one that supports both the screen and the shutter.

That translates to BIG BATTERY!....and not a lot of room to put it.

Think Digilux 2. Now cram that battery in the two separate spaces voided by the cassette and film take-up spaces. Add the additional electronic equipment, keep the existing VF of course, space for the SD card (just a guess), plus the screen.

I know Epson has one out there, but I think Leicafiles are expecting a little better than just something with a red dot.

I doubt if we're talking M5 dimensions here, but if you want the sillahuette(sp) of the other Ms, it will have to be scaled up a bit.

OCULUS NEW YORK-It has been awhile since I've been there, but I understood at the time that it was the law that required the rear view mirrors to be out on the fenders of those cars in Japan. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Peter, could you give me some info on that chrome handgip you had mounted on your M?

Thanks in advance,

Jerry

The frightening thing about this post is that apparently the is enough bandwidth in the world to support it.

Howdaya spell inane

I never could understand why they didn't place a "Green dot", that would be exposed when the camera was turned on.

Then I thought about it. "Green Dot?"....heresy.

Hello,

First posting on this site (been on the Leica photo net for years),

with a question about the Minox C.

Although I already have a C, there was one on the 'bay' that was

advertised with a "non working shutter". I bid on it and won the

bid. My bid was actually based upon it having a case and box, along

with a chain, all of which were lacking w/my C.

To my surprise when it arrived, all it needed was to add the battery

and it worked fine. There were other differences though. The lens

was Complan rather than Minox on the lens shield. The meter senser

window was larger while the senser was the same size and appeared to

be inset in the middle of a strip of metal.

When I looked, the serial # was 2300138. Checking the list of

numbers it appears I stumbled across a very early production sample.

While I wouldn't classify myself as a "one of everything" collector,

endeavoring only to have the II through LX models. Currently I'm

short the II and BL.

With that, I have to ask just how fortunate I am, and how rare are

Cs with the larger window and Complan lens?

I suspect that I "got lucky" and in no way wish to flout my good

fortune with how much I paid.

Best,

Jerry

I looked (local dealers and the bay) for a couple of years. Dealers said it was out of production and none around.

Then, at a local dealer "Leica Day" (with 10% off), the Rep told me to e-mail Roger Horn at Leica to see if he could locate one.

He returned the e-mail that afternoon stating he had found one on the storeroom shelves himself, and offered to ship it to my local dealer, along with honoring the 10% off. He also offered that production in chrome of this lens was "very small", and he couldn't understand why.

I think of him every time I read a post where Leica USA gets bashed. Quite a guy.

Jerry

Well, if Solms is on the stick, it won't matter. The speeds will be seen in the VF.

Jerry

"If stolen, this device will explode"

"My childrens inheritance"

"There goes any wine, women and song"

"Mine is bigger than yours"

"A gift, made possible by my CPA"

"Big boy, big toy"

"St. Peter, can I trade this for you to open the gate?"

Perhaps a better question is how far you can rack it out before you fog the film...

Jerry

Henry,

Don't mean to rain on your parade but I would tend to doubt it has additional collectable value. Especially since this was the third run of serial production.

Often, as with the M3 in particular, the first thousand at 700,000 and the last thousand or so and the last thousand at around 1,165,000 have some draw for collectors. Not so much with the SLRs.

Jerry

I used to marvel at the instantaineous communications the world wide web made possible.

Not so sure about that now, as it appears some extra-terrestrials have moved in.

Looks like I was wrong again.

The beat just doesn't go on.... It goes on, and on, and on......

Leica will produce a Digital M. Some will love it....some will hate it. Everyone will wish they could afford it, even if they don't intend to buy one.

The beat goes on...

"Bless me Father for I have.......well, never inhaled at least".

However, when I sprang for a new M7 last year my Wife was certain I must have been on something.

Jerry

"Keepers"? Well, in the eye of the beholder I guess.

Actually, I've "kept" them all. Why? Certainly not to keep the slide tray, glassine, and album folks in business. Nor like many of the forum folk I don't have to put bread on the table by snapping a shutter.

Rather because in each exposure I was there, and it's what I saw at that moment. And at that moment what I wanted to capture (or thought I did). I'll let the Wife, Kids, and Grandkids "cull" them after they've barbarcued me.

In the interest of full disclosure, I do throw out those half frames where I tried to squeeze 38 frames out of a 36 exposure roll.

I have no dispute with the bulk of the comments posted so far.

The pros-image quality for 5 meg (doesn't get much better with the lens and only 5 meg), compliments the M in handling qualities, and perceived quality (forget that it has a red dot, and a very good and clever built in flash for it's size, especially indirect).

The cons-EVF, noise at higher than 100 ISO, slow write times (get an Ultra card).

Any 2+ year old camera is going to be long in the tooth, any newly released digital will be also in a couple of years. If you wish to have the latest and greatest digital, plan on buying new every year or so, and just about giving away you old model. Especially if you have to put "bread on the table" through using one.

The speed from click to finished image is the one aspect that film will never beat, and serves as the foundation for digitals rise.

My Digilux 2 will serve this old Grandads purposes though, givin the ease in capturing images very well thank you, and disseminating them to Family and friends.

The one comment above with which I disagree though involves macro use. The 69mm ELPRO close-up lens gets you awfully close to counting those angels on the head of a pin. Bring your shutter realease cable and a tripod though.

Jerry

No.

1. That's a lot of money for this 63 yr old retiree.

2. After 50 years of shooting film I'm satisfied that I know what to expect (kinda).

3. I can't write it off.

4. I have a Digilux 2, and it works for my purposes. Shooting Grandkids and e-mailing the results among family and friends. (Lord knows there are better digitals but it's hard enough for me to comprehend all that this one will do.)

5. Progress is too rapid in the digital world. Fast forward a couple of years. Will a $750 Brand X with M mount blow it out of the water?

6. Lastly the ever popular "no way I could get it past my Wife".

I realize that Leica feels they have to seriously get in the game. There have been a lot of positive responses so far and I'm sure it will carry on with the Leitz/Leica tradition and be as well made as their technology and manufacturing capabilities can produce.

Now, if Roger Horn wants to ship me one for a free 10 year road test...

Just kidding Roger (if you monitor this site). You'd be wasting it on me.

Jerry

I enjoy photography-I further enjoy using precision tools.

The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Jerry

Hi,

Could some of forum members from the Great White North, help me out

a bit.

Through the LHSA catalog, I have sold (tentavilly I guess) a Leitz

lens to one of our neighbors to the North.

The money is on the way he says, but when calling he asked if I

would identify it only as a "...old photographic lens, with a value

of only $50-75 USD when shipping. When I noted to him that I didn't

think I could insure it for the full face value if I under declared

it, he said not to worry, he'd take the risk.

Not to sound like a Boy Scout here, but am a little troubled with

such a risk as I don't want the RCMP headed my way6. Stopped by the

PO today and explained situation. Besides telling me not to do it,

they indicated that, if caught, not only is he at risk, but so am I

equally for fines, etc.

I decided not to do it, and will declare full sale value for

insurance purposes, but am curious if others may have had "cross

border" sales experience, along with just how much Canada would

charge him on a value of $450 USD?

Thanks in advance,

Jerry

Hi,

As was stated, E-41 is the correct size for the first version 65mm. Hasn't been made by Leica for quite awhile, and tough to find, even on that auction site.

If you're into Visoflex shooting however, you'll find it one of Leitz's more undervalued lenses. Viso shooting is a hassle, but perhaps that's part of the charm.

Best,

Jerry

Dave,

The Elmar-C is a fine lens as I'm sure you'll discover as you use it. The Minolta version is equally fine. As they are identical, both being made by Leitz and containing the same glass and barrel, one should expect nothing less.

Only the designation of "Elmar-C" or "Minolta" distinguishes one from the other. Due to the f/4 speed, which plays a role in their size, they make an excellent and pocketable walk around lens.

Price? In equivalent condition and side by side, the Elmar-C will always draw more money than the Minolta, if only because it has the Leitz designation. Generally $50 to $100 more, with a pristine Elmar-C with correct box, caps,etc. at about $300, give or take a few bucks.

Along with their companion 40mm Summicrons and Rokkers, probably a couple of the most "underrated" photographically of the lenses made by Leitz.

Best,

Jerry